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rtcb68
06-02-2009, 11:49 PM
Got to know this China girl and have a very good time with her for a while.
We call each other every day thought she is in China and my feeling grow alone the way. I had told her that I am married but she really dont mind and had lie to her family that i am not. I really wish to married her but i am married.
Can anyone assist me? Can I married her in China thought i had registered in Singapore? We do love each other very very much. :confused:

fkma
06-02-2009, 11:58 PM
bro, make up your mind who u want.

Singapore wife or china wife.

But don't forget, mistress is always more exciting....

aakumu
07-02-2009, 12:01 AM
Got to know this China girl and have a very good time with her for a while.
We call each other every day thought she is in China and my feeling grow alone the way. I had told her that I am married but she really dont mind and had lie to her family that i am not. I really wish to married her but i am married.
Can anyone assist me? Can I married her in China thought i had registered in Singapore? We do love each other very very much. :confused:

Hi bro,
Not to make it too simple, just get a divorce. and go married the china girl.
If you fool around behind your wifes back she will get back at you legally, which will cost you more.

My humble two cents.

TanChinKu
07-02-2009, 12:15 AM
Sigh... it is because greedy guys like you that cause me to be left on the shelf :(

titan
07-02-2009, 12:18 AM
its lust or love?? don't kena KC trap...

Max77
07-02-2009, 12:20 AM
Not sure whether I'm right.U r wrong when u r married once (lost ur freedom).U r really wrong when u wanna get married again (lost ur assets).U r so damn wrong when u wanna get married again when u r still married (lost urself).Jus blamed urself coz u r borned Singaporean-All the above are grave mistakes here

TanChinKu
07-02-2009, 12:21 AM
If it is love... so what happened when you first married your wife? Wasn't it because of love? Didn't you think that you were so in love during that time too? SO this new found is really love this time? The previous one weren't? Would it be the case that the current new found love will end up like the 1st in the future?

icecum
07-02-2009, 12:25 AM
Well bro Rtcb68, Just ask yourself how many yr are u with ur wife? Are u happy with her for all those year? if the ans it yes..... then forget about your that china girl..... if the ans it no then ask yourelf again.... if you with your this wife dirvoce and get marry this china girl after a few year, the Q will be back to you again.... if u get to know another china girl how? how will you do?

you get the pic? you get what i mean?

micxoxo
07-02-2009, 12:32 AM
Dear TS, before everything starts, cool it off. SBF don't require another SG guy cheated by PRC gal story. Do read past threads for more info. So far the score is PRC 1,000,000 SG 0.

muzikanet
07-02-2009, 12:41 AM
Think you are real confused..

U dun love yr wife anymore?

ChinaFriends67
07-02-2009, 12:43 AM
Dear TS, it's time to wake your BIG HEAD to do some thinking work. Don't always rely on your SMALLER HEAD to do the thinking!!!:eek::(:eek:

DNAdevil
07-02-2009, 01:01 AM
dear TS, i cant advise much as tis is ur life, no matter how much advise me and other samster here give u, in the end u still have to make the decision urself, all i can help here is to show u a post that i saw in other forum and so i copy and paste here for u to take a look, hope it help u wat to do. :)

" On my wedding day, I carried my wife in my arms. The bridal car stopped
in front of our one-room flat. My buddies insisted that I carry her out of the car in my arms. So I carried her into our home. She was then
plump and shy. I was a strong and happy bridegroom.

This was the scene of ten years ago.

The following days were as simple as a cup of pure water: we had a kid,
I went into business and tried to make more money. When the assets were steadily increasing, the affections between us seemed to ebb. She was a civil servant. Every morning we left home together and got home almost at the same time. Our kid was studying in a boarding school.

Our marriage life seemed to be enviably happy. But the calm life was
more likely to be affected by unpredictable changes.

Dew came into my life.

It was a sunny day. I stood on a spacious balcony. Dew hugged me from
behind. My heart once again was immersed in her stream of love. This was the apartment I bought for her.

Dew said, You are the kind of man who best draws girls eyeballs. Her
words suddenly reminded me of my wife. When we just married, my wife
said, Men like you, once successful, will be very attractive to girls.
Thinking of this, I became somewhat hesitant. I knew I had betrayed my
wife. But I couldn t help doing so.

I moved Dew s hands aside and said, You go to select some furniture,
O.K.? I ve got something to do in the company. Obviously she was
unhappy, because I had promised her to go and see with her. At the
moment, the idea of divorce became clearer in my mind although it used
to be something impossible to me.

However, I found it rather difficult to tell my wife about it. No matter
how mildly I mentioned it to her, she would be deeply hurt. Honestly,
she was a good wife. Every evening she was busy preparing dinner. I was
sitting together. Or, I was lounging before the computer, visualizing Dew's
body. This was the means of my entertainment.

One day I said to her in a slight joking way, suppose we divorce, what
will you do? She stared at me for a few seconds without a word.
Apparently she believed that divorce was something too far away from
her. I couldn t imagine how she would react once she got to know I was
serious.

When my wife went to my office, Dew had just stepped out. Almost all the
staff looked at my wife with a sympathetic eye and tried to hide
something while talking with her. She seemed to have got some hint. She
gently smiled at my subordinates. But I read some hurt in her eyes.

Once again, Dew said to me, He Ning, divorce her, O.K.? Then we live
together. I nodded. I knew I could not hesitate any more.

When my wife served the last dish, I held her hand. I ve got something
to tell you, I said.

She sat down and ate quietly. Again I observed the hurt in her eyes.
Suddenly I didn t know how to open my mouth. But I had to let her know
what I was thinking. I want to divorce. I raised a serious topic calmly.

She didn t seem to be much annoyed by my words, instead she asked me
softly, why? . I m serious. I avoided her question. This so-called
answer turned her angry. She threw away the chopsticks and shouted at me, you are not a man!

At that night, we didn t talk to each other. She was weeping. I knew she
wanted to find out what had happened to our marriage. But I could hardly
give her a satisfactory answer, because my heart had gone to Dew.

With a deep sense of guilt, I drafted a divorce agreement which stated
that she could own our house, our car, and 30% stake of my company. She
glanced at it and then tore it into pieces. I felt a pain in my heart.
The woman who had been living ten years with me would become a stranger
one day. But I could not take back what I had said.

Finally she cried loudly in front of me, which was what I had expected
to see. To me her cry was actually a kind of release. The idea of
divorce which had obsessed me for several weeks seemed to be firmer and
clearer.

A late night, I came back home after entertaining my clients. I saw her
writing something at the table. I fell asleep fast. When I woke up, I
found she was still there. I turned over and was asleep again.

She brought up her divorce conditions: she didn t want anything from me,
but I was supposed to give her one month s time before divorce, and in
the month s time we must live as normal life as possible. Her reason was
simple: our son would finish his summer vacation a month later and she
didn t want him to see our marriage was broken.

She passed me the agreement she drafted, and then asked me, He Ning, do you still remember how I entered our bridal room on the wedding day?
This question suddenly brought back all those wonderful memories to me.
I nodded and said, I remember . You carried me in your arms , she
continued, so, I have a requirement, that is, you carry me out in your
arms on the day when we divorce. From now to the end of this month, you must carry me out from the bedroom to the door every morning.

I accepted with a smile. I knew she missed those sweet days and wished
to end her marriage with a romantic form.

I told Dew about my wife s divorce conditions. She laughed loudly and
thought it was absurd. No matter what tricks she does, she has to face
the result of divorce, she said scornfully. Her words more or less made
me feel uncomfortable.

My wife and I hadn t had any body contact since my divorce intention was
explicitly expressed. We even treated each other as a stranger. So when I carried her out for the first day, we both appeared clumsy. Our son
clapped behind us, daddy is holding mummy in his arms. His words brought me a sense of pain. From the bedroom to the sitting room, then to the door, I walked over ten meters with her in my arms. She closed her eyes and said softly, Let us start from today, don t tell our son. I nodded, feeling somewhat upset. I put her down outside the door. She went to wait for bus, I drove to office.

On the second day, both of us acted much more easily. She leaned on my
chest. We were so close that I could smell the fragrance of her blouse.
I realized that I hadn t looked at this intimate woman carefully for a
long time. I found she was not young any more. There were some fine
wrinkles on her face.

On the third day, she whispered to me, The outside garden is being
demolished. Be careful when you pass there.

On the fourth day, when I lifted her up, I seemed to feel that we were
still an intimate couple and I was holding my sweetheart in my arms. The
visualization of Dew became vaguer.

On the fifth and sixth day, she kept reminding me something, such as,
where she put the ironed shirts, I should be careful while cooking, etc.
I nodded. The sense of intimacy was even stronger.

I didn t tell Dew about this.

I felt it was easier to carry her. Perhaps the everyday workout made me
stronger. I said to her, It seems not difficult to carry you now.

She was picking her dresses. I was waiting to carry her out. She tried
quite a few but could not find a suitable one. Then she sighed, All my
dresses have grown fatter. I smiled. But I suddenly realized that it was
because she was thinner that I could carry her more easily, not because
I was stronger. I knew she had buried all the bitterness in her heart.
Again, I felt a sense of pain. Subconsciously I reached out a hand to
touch her head.

Our son came in at the moment. Dad, it s time to carry mum out. He said.
To him, seeing his father carrying his mother out had been an essential
part of his life. She gestured our son to come closer and hugged him
tightly. I turned my face because I was afraid I would change my mind at
the last minute. I held her in my arms, walking from the bedroom,
through the sitting room, to the hallway. Her hand surrounded my neck
softly and naturally. I held her body tightly, as if we came back to our
wedding day. But her much lighter weight made me sad.

On the last day, when I held her in my arms I could hardly move a step.
Our son had gone to school. She said, Actually I hope you will hold me
in your arms until we are old.

I held her tightly and said, Both you and I didn t notice that our life
was lack of such intimacy.

I jumped out of the car swiftly without locking the door. I was afraid
any delay would make me change my decision. I walked upstairs. Dew
opened the door. I said to her, Sorry, Dew, I won t divorce. I m
serious.

She looked at me, astonished. The she touched my forehead. You got no
fever. She said. I moved her hand off my head. Sorry, Dew, I said, I can
only say sorry to you, I won t divorce. My marriage life was boring
probably because she and I didn t value the details of life, not because
we didn t love each other any more. Now I understand that since I
carried her into the home, she gave birth to our child, I am supposed to
hold her until I am old. So I have to say sorry to you.

Dew seemed to suddenly wake up. She gave me a loud slap and then slammed
the door and burst into cry. I walked downstairs and drove to the
office.

When I passed the floral shop on the way, I ordered a bouquet for my
wife which was her favorite. The salesgirl asked me to write the
greeting words on the card. I smiled and wrote, I ll carry you out every
morning until we are old. "

Wet_Towel
07-02-2009, 01:38 AM
dear TS, i cant advise much as tis is ur life, no matter how much advise me and other samster here give u, in the end u still have to make the decision urself, all i can help here is to show u a post that i saw in other forum and so i copy and paste here for u to take a look, hope it help u wat to do. :)

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When I passed the floral shop on the way, I ordered a bouquet for my
wife which was her favorite. The salesgirl asked me to write the
greeting words on the card. I smiled and wrote, I ll carry you out every
morning until we are old. "


TS, you up leh. Post such a long story. More then 10000 words leh. But touching, me also almost divorce my OC before. Not because of someone else but mainly money. Think of it now, coming close to 10 years of married life..

Bookshelf
07-02-2009, 03:28 AM
Do u still love yr wife?

Wtapss
07-02-2009, 03:29 AM
Originally Posted by DNAdevil
dear TS, i cant advise much as tis is ur life, no matter how much advise me and other samster here give u, in the end u still have to make the decision urself, all i can help here is to show u a post that i saw in other forum and so i copy and paste here for u to take a look, hope it help u wat to do.

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.................................................. .................................................. ...

When I passed the floral shop on the way, I ordered a bouquet for my
wife which was her favorite. The salesgirl asked me to write the
greeting words on the card. I smiled and wrote, I ll carry you out every
morning until we are old. "



It's such a touching story.
TS , please think twice before you make any decision.

yongzhen
07-02-2009, 06:39 AM
Bro DNAdevil, Think I read this story somewhere else.
Is this yr own story?
Bro TS, this shld b in the wrong place.
But anyway, pls think carefully who u really love.

aczeta76
07-02-2009, 08:47 AM
Got to know this China girl and have a very good time with her for a while.
We call each other every day thought she is in China and my feeling grow alone the way. I had told her that I am married but she really dont mind and had lie to her family that i am not. I really wish to married her but i am married.
Can anyone assist me? Can I married her in China thought i had registered in Singapore? We do love each other very very much. :confused:

YES u can but wait to be charged with bigamy..

U want to marry her for ??? SEX??

The reason that the majority of us dun go crying to marry every single FL we KC is be'coz unless you have more "exp" with them outside the room, things will not last long.

If you are deciding based on lust, forget it.

Love... make a comparison between her and your wife as well as your committment loh

Adult liao so juz be responsible with your actioons

ahbey
07-02-2009, 09:12 AM
Bro,
i understand your feeling of the KC and charm of PRC girlfriend.
At this moment i also " Fall in love" to 1 of the KTV girl - young , pretty , wild
and lovely that can make me crazy about her.......everyday wait for call . smses , learn to write chinese ,buy her expensive gift , pass her alots of money ,came home late with thousands of excuse lies to my wife, weekend go dinner with her instead of my lovely families and etc .....
But reading all the advice from all the brothers here ...
I felt like sudden wake up........what the hell I am doing to this familiy?:eek:
like what TS said - wife build up your wealth and career together with you from scrape...but they enjoy what you are having now?????

Please think properly on this angle before you make any decision......

jameschong2
07-02-2009, 09:31 AM
[QUOTE=rtcb68;3453958]Got to know this China girl and have a very good time with her for a while.
We call each other every day thought she is in China and my feeling grow alone the way. I had told her that I am married but she really dont mind and had lie to her family that i am not. I really wish to married her but i am married.
Can u be so sure she does not have a lao gong back home
Many cases of kind hearted but naive Singaporeans being cheated by these prostitutes - go all the way to China only to have their lao gong knocking on door and demanding money
If she's streets or KTC or barber shops, take her as a public toilet seat, let go & flush, f..k off & choose the next available toilet seat next time

Haili
07-02-2009, 09:34 AM
if your wife is a money spender , you must quick2x divorce her with a thousand of excuses.
if your wife is a good wife, care for the family, respect your parents, anyway [good wife] you cannot divorce her!!!

but about the PRC mistress you must keep also, maybe rent an apartment for her to live(in Singapore),everytime you need a hole to shoot your sperm thats the other choice-if your financial condition approve ,build a big house in mainland China as a reward,...

leecs
07-02-2009, 09:41 AM
Im experienicing what TS is having right now. The relationship with my wife is not so good now. She doesnt want to have babies, wedding dinner, etc. She wants to lead the life for just the 2 of us forever. I cant do it. I did try to talk to her, but she will say she dont like babies. they are irritating, nuisance & she will say why dont we have a divorce & dont waste each others time... I've given up on this relationship. I really cant stay with my wife anymore.

This made me more wana be with the PRC. But shes in china now. Although she rejected me because im married, I told her i wont give up... Now i just gotta wait for her to come back then say...

She is the 2nd girl that made me fallen so deep. the 1st 1 was my childhood love.

geckoSG
07-02-2009, 11:15 AM
TS, do the right thing... if U really wanna marry the china girl, do a proper
divorce in SG.

Sangrawi
07-02-2009, 11:22 AM
Be very very careful...

Many China girls are very materialistic and practical. A lawyer friend of mine handles many divorce cases of China gals and Singapore men. Many divorced their husbands as soon as they get their Singapore PR.

Also many of them may be sweet, sexy and demure when young. Unfortunately,they turn into loud, aggressive and money grapping wives after marriage. I have a distant relative that is exactly that. They lived in China and will come to Singapore to stay with my sister in law during the December holidays. The wife (Shanghai woman - no longer girl) would scold her son so loud and badly that the neighbours had to call the police thinking it is child abuse.

Is that what you want for your wife?

ch18
07-02-2009, 11:23 AM
Ya lah..........

Why marry the PRC gal when you only need her pussy?
Just use, dispose and get a new one when feels like it.....

funseeker
07-02-2009, 11:25 AM
I ll carry you out every morning until we are old. "

Brother DNAdevil, what you had wrote made me realise the mistakes I made. Tear drops started to form on my eye while I read. In good time and in bad time, my wife is always there with me. It is a real shame for me to start falling in love for other. I will treasure my wife and my family. Thank You, brother.

TS, you should also read bro DNAdevil's post in detail and make your decision.

mebirdie
07-02-2009, 11:42 AM
Before you married, it is love.
After married, you have to think not only love but also responsibiltiy.
The priority of marriage is the responsiblility to a family especially you have children.

It applies the same to your wife. Love will be faded as time goes by. But responsibilities overwrite the love.
Of course, if both parties do not wish to hold responsibilities to hold on to the family anymore, it is time to say goodbye.

Frankly speakly, a third party woman who requested a guy to divorce most likely to me is not a good wife.

Try telling the china girl you do not have $$ now, just kena sue bankruptcy. See what is the reaction!

DizzyMage
07-02-2009, 11:45 AM
I ll carry you out every
morning until we are old. "

Bro...

Your posting is so simple yet so touching. Me going thru a rough patch now, not the same case but your posting enriched me. Thank you.

formidable
07-02-2009, 12:42 PM
Heard a saying before,
A man who falls in love with different women is a Romance Guru/Expert,
A man who has 1 happy marriage till old/death is a Marriage Guru/Expert...

Which do u prefer?

Good to have ONE World
Better to have TWO Worlds
Best to have ALL Worlds

Agree sometime,
small head(Dick) win over big head,
emotion vs/override/overrule logic,
fulfill man-ego satisfaction,
want FB(free/fuck buddy),
want mistress(FOC - fuck on credit?).

The more CHIO&YOUNGER the better as they tend to give us
ENERGY,
LIFEFORCE,
SUPER PRIDE,
MORALE BOOSTER,
FEEL,
MAN'S EGO,
FLAUNTING her talent/beauty asset beside you to other people,
make people feel ENVIOUS to u,
make you feel PROUD,
SUPER MAN'S EGO,
SATISFY your DESIRE/LUST HUNGER,
like the THRILL of HIDE & SEEK /POLICE &THIEF game
and hope to PLAY & NEVER GET CAUGHT.
What OC DID NOT KNOW WILL NOT HURT her,etc

You can ask yourself(which some men will AVOID) :
sooner/later what if she(wife/OC) FOUND OUT?
If you have/"fcuk" the most beautiful woman(not OC) on earth , SO WHAT?

LUST: go to clean FL/brothel/ons. (maybe this can play and never/seldom get caught, just remember to go back home to be with OC)

LUST/FEEL : FB/mistress. (higher chance of getting caught by holding hand on the street/overseas trip together/check in,just remember to go back home to be with OC)

LUST/FEEL/YOUTH were once encountered during PRE-WIFE / BGF period with her(OC). Can rekindle in some way with OC if we want...

BEAUTY will FADE

Man once successful/rich/married tend to be naughty/bad ( not all men)
Woman once naughty/bad tend to be successful/rich ( not all women)

Man once successful/rich/married tend to be more attractive to women/girls, cos man (intellectual/financial/physical)become more mature/stable/secure as well.
Women/girls may not be attracted to Man not successful/rich/married( the younger days of YOU before marriage/successful/rich)

So if you are divorced with only your underwear intact(all asset goto OC), will she(not OC) still want you? Think again why she (not OC) with you in the first place.

The above has been told since once upon a time/ long long time ago, a MILLION times in a MILLION ways in MILLION stories. Now we are still debating/talking about it hah :)

Just my 2 cent sharing...:)

Mrxhub
07-02-2009, 12:48 PM
Got to know this China girl and have a very good time with her for a while.
We call each other every day thought she is in China and my feeling grow alone the way. I had told her that I am married but she really dont mind and had lie to her family that i am not. I really wish to married her but i am married.
Can anyone assist me? Can I married her in China thought i had registered in Singapore? We do love each other very very much. :confused:

Sorry bro, if you married in china again, u are going against china law, you will be fined and jailed for it....but you need a ROM cert. to prove you are single, so u you unable to get marry in china...there is a way to do it...but it really very costly.....:)

I also marrying my PRC gf also....but she know I'm too smart, and outwit me by register marriage with me in SG (bcos she know I'm able to marry 2 or 3 wife legally) but we are be staying in Beijing.

Mrxhub
07-02-2009, 12:55 PM
Im experienicing what TS is having right now. The relationship with my wife is not so good now. She doesnt want to have babies, wedding dinner, etc. She wants to lead the life for just the 2 of us forever. I cant do it. I did try to talk to her, but she will say she dont like babies. they are irritating, nuisance & she will say why dont we have a divorce & dont waste each others time... I've given up on this relationship. I really cant stay with my wife anymore.

This made me more wana be with the PRC. But shes in china now. Although she rejected me because im married, I told her i wont give up... Now i just gotta wait for her to come back then say...

She is the 2nd girl that made me fallen so deep. the 1st 1 was my childhood love.

Wah, really pity you man...your wife so negitive thinking 1....but be careful with PRC lah...they are not as simple as you think, unless she's a good babe. :)

thomas88
07-02-2009, 01:09 PM
I'm really touch by reading DNAdevil post....Water dwell in my eyes though I don't wept easily.

It's a very sad but happy ending story. I really hope TS read this post too and think a million times about divorcing his wife who has stick with him much much longer than the PRC gal. Most PRC gal come to Singapore with the intention of getting a PR and Singaporean status not forgetting to make more money.

If you think your marriage life now is boring.....then be prepared for the worst should you divorce your wife and marries the PRC as the stages of marriage will come to what you're feeling now or worst off as by then you'll be broke from having to transfer most of your money to China(building house, etc).:(

MrBombastic
07-02-2009, 01:16 PM
I got to know some guys got carried away due to fling cum relationship. However when we look at it, if the lady knows that you got a wife and insist on the relationship with you, it means she can also do this to you one day for another man.

Bro dnadevil has share with us a very good example of his life. I'm touched by his story and it bring us from fantasy to reality of life. If we seek for divorce, what will happen to our wife and children? We swore in front of our family and friends that we'll take care of her for the rest of our life. Half way through we give her up.

I ain't married, but I feel it. In fact I'm still looking for a life partner. 2 years ago, I almost marry my ex for 8 years. However due to distance relationship and her strong ambition, I have to give it up and spend my life alone.

If you look around you, there are many single man who wish to be in your shoes. Unfortunately destiny don't allow them to do so. All married are the envy in their eyes. Comparing to them, you can see how lucky you are...

LuvHotaruAkane
07-02-2009, 01:38 PM
Yo bro just do whatever u deem fit. We are not in your shoes and definitely don't qualify to advise u how u run ur life.

Seriously... now this society. Just when u think u are cheating on ur wife or gf, U never know what they are doing in the office. I can ensure u women are wilder when coming to flings.

And as for love with WLs... There is only a less than 1% chance. If u think she loves u...u better think again.

kogi
07-02-2009, 01:50 PM
Got to know this China girl and have a very good time with her for a while.
We call each other every day thought she is in China and my feeling grow alone the way. I had told her that I am married but she really dont mind and had lie to her family that i am not. I really wish to married her but i am married.
Can anyone assist me? Can I married her in China thought i had registered in Singapore? We do love each other very very much. :confused:

Bro, think about it. You got married and the excitement went out of your life. Now you want to repeat a past mistake and make it worse with bigamy? Your China wife will hold your balls to the fire anytime she wants something from you and you cannot say no.
So you marry her in China and spend all your money with the promise of more to come. What if she starts going out to nightclubs to look for exciting men after that? Then she gets pregnant with another guy's baby that you have to pay for. What can you do? Complain to who? Run back to Singapore to hide? She can fix you any time either by telling your 1st wife about you or reporting you to the authorities here.

Bro, if you love her and she loves you then dont get married. Share cash,car,credit card,condo,country club but dont get married again.

dap26
07-02-2009, 02:07 PM
TS,think very carefully...If she really yr rite one...Do you still love your wife???...Dun do anythings that makes you regret for life.....

infinitedubs
07-02-2009, 02:23 PM
Opinion - Dun marry many wives..U'll regret.:cool:

hawk007
07-02-2009, 03:10 PM
I think it is a case of when you don hav it, you wan it. But you when you have it, it might not be the best.

leecs
07-02-2009, 03:26 PM
Wah, really pity you man...your wife so negitive thinking 1....but be careful with PRC lah...they are not as simple as you think, unless she's a good babe. :)

I may fly to china end of feb to find her. Yes! i've heard countless stories about PRC gals. But i dont think all are bad. I have many colleagues who marry PRCs & they are doing very well & have babies.

Really miss her alot.

LostALau
07-02-2009, 05:31 PM
TS, What happened to your marriage vow......to take care of her in sickness and in health ......till death break you apart ......... Forgotten already?:(

HCKing
07-02-2009, 05:56 PM
Got to know this China girl and have a very good time with her for a while.
We call each other every day thought she is in China and my feeling grow alone the way. I had told her that I am married but she really dont mind and had lie to her family that i am not. I really wish to married her but i am married.
Can anyone assist me? Can I married her in China thought i had registered in Singapore? We do love each other very very much. :confused:

another KC victim, haiz.:o

TS i suggest u read up more news and articles online abt relationship with PRC girls. it will help to wake up yr big head.

or u can also read up the threads in Matters of the Heart section.

just4fun
07-02-2009, 07:36 PM
I may fly to china end of feb to find her. Yes! i've heard countless stories about PRC gals. But i dont think all are bad. I have many colleagues who marry PRCs & they are doing very well & have babies.

Really miss her alot.

Sometime i just cant seem to be able to understand people like yourself....

Let's not talk about PRC either good/bad...You are saying that ur colleagues whom married PRC are happily together....but can u marry her???? Can you bring her to SG????:rolleyes:You are thinking of marrying her in china...while you are still married in Sg....Come on...you cant be using yourself to compare with them...This is nothing but mere selfishness....:rolleyes:

You might not know...In china, if your gf brought you back home to see her parents, it will mean that you guys are officially together...words will spread especially in the countryside places.... One fine day, you decided to leave her...you are actually runining her life

Come on...think more...Dun be a jerk!!! Be fair to both ladies... This is NOT about how to choose, but how you are going to change other lifes, even more applicable when you have kids....

爱她变成害她!!!

jameschong2
07-02-2009, 07:55 PM
[QUOTE=just4fun;3456283]Sometime i just cant seem to be able to understand people like yourself....
Take my word - use these roadside wild chickens as public toilet seats - flush them away after using!
Go for the high-end KTV or clean massage chicks

boyboi
07-02-2009, 10:30 PM
divorce the current wife n marry the china girl lo...or marry china girl in china...fly here n there lo...

LostALau
07-02-2009, 10:51 PM
divorce the current wife n marry the china girl lo...or marry china girl in china...fly here n there lo...

Bro boyboi, What kind of advice is this. Then he would have committed bigamy and punishable by law. Want TS to go to jail issit? Wahlau, u need a spanking.

DNAdevil
07-02-2009, 11:56 PM
Hi guys!! just letting u all noe that IM NOT MARRIED the post i posted here is from other forum from other guy not mine hehehe, i too find that its very touching so i post here to share to all and of cos to the TS, glade that it help most of the bro here and hope that it will help the TS too, the guy who post it should get all the credits for helping all the bro here with his experience, so again i hope it will help more bros with their marriage and love life. :)

DNAdevil
08-02-2009, 12:00 AM
oh yes a really big THANK YOU to the bros or maybe sister who up my points, thank you. :o

leecs
08-02-2009, 01:17 AM
Sometime i just cant seem to be able to understand people like yourself....

Let's not talk about PRC either good/bad...You are saying that ur colleagues whom married PRC are happily together....but can u marry her???? Can you bring her to SG????:rolleyes:You are thinking of marrying her in china...while you are still married in Sg....Come on...you cant be using yourself to compare with them...This is nothing but mere selfishness....:rolleyes:

You might not know...In china, if your gf brought you back home to see her parents, it will mean that you guys are officially together...words will spread especially in the countryside places.... One fine day, you decided to leave her...you are actually runining her life

Come on...think more...Dun be a jerk!!! Be fair to both ladies... This is NOT about how to choose, but how you are going to change other lifes, even more applicable when you have kids....

爱她变成害她!!!

I do not wana have 2 women in my life. You got it all wrong. If i've chosen the PRC, i will divorce my wife & bring the PRC to SG to stay..

Niceman
08-02-2009, 02:16 AM
I do not wana have 2 women in my life. You got it all wrong. If i've chosen the PRC, i will divorce my wife & bring the PRC to SG to stay..

Think twice, think twice X 100. Dont be naive. We siilyporean are known to be naive and think is love the only matter. Alot of practical issue involved. Not all are bad and after money. Though they are not materialistic, they are freaking hell realistic. Tell her, currently u r facing financial problem and need 3 years to settle by yourself, and see whether she will wait for you? Younger one might and sure they will. But for those age 27 and above, I can bet with you the outcome, their decision.

Niceman
08-02-2009, 02:29 AM
I got a bro in financial deep shit. Told his ex to give him 3 years, he sure marry her. They both were deeply in love. But she replied, just waiting got no security, and she married few months later. Now divorce with a 2 year old daughter.

I got another bro, who is deeply in love with a shanghainess girl. Jobless, and told her to wait 6months, for sure can get a job in shanghai and move over to stay with her. She said she love him also and willing to wait. 2 weeks later, keep shouting at him that she lost patience and looking for a guy to get marry soon.

Bro, love is love, reality and culture differences make us world apart. Be realistic and hope future sillyporean can stop being naive.

leecs
08-02-2009, 02:35 AM
Think twice, think twice X 100. Dont be naive. We siilyporean are known to be naive and think is love the only matter. Alot of practical issue involved. Not all are bad and after money. Though they are not materialistic, they are freaking hell realistic. Tell her, currently u r facing financial problem and need 3 years to settle by yourself, and see whether she will wait for you? Younger one might and sure they will. But for those age 27 and above, I can bet with you the outcome, their decision.

she'll be coming back here to work maybe a yr or so soon. i'll see how it goes.. shes 25 btw, although it doesnt mean anything

Niceman
08-02-2009, 02:38 AM
Im experienicing what TS is having right now. The relationship with my wife is not so good now. She doesnt want to have babies, wedding dinner, etc. She wants to lead the life for just the 2 of us forever. I cant do it. I did try to talk to her, but she will say she dont like babies. they are irritating, nuisance & she will say why dont we have a divorce & dont waste each others time... I've given up on this relationship. I really cant stay with my wife anymore.

This made me more wana be with the PRC. But shes in china now. Although she rejected me because im married, I told her i wont give up... Now i just gotta wait for her to come back then say...

She is the 2nd girl that made me fallen so deep. the 1st 1 was my childhood love.

Understand how u feel, bro, I got same feeling for my ex-gf also. Since your wife is currently such, maybe can think about it. But as for your prc lover, I think u r seeking comfort and re-identifying yourself. Don't make the decision so quickly, de-emotionalize yourself before future action, which will sure cause some reaction, be it bad or good. Why jump gun? in prc, if you got money, no scare no women lah.

Cheers and good luck.

Niceman
08-02-2009, 02:44 AM
she'll be coming back here to work maybe a yr or so soon. i'll see how it goes.. shes 25 btw, although it doesnt mean anything

25 nia.... she coming in to explore opportunity for herself lah. Not mainly for you. Now jobs are lesser everywhere. Come here work? her ang moh ok anot? can write report in ang moh anot? If not, work as what? waitress? then later she will kbkp that her legs tired and wanna you to feed her, and also her family back in china. You can tahan anot? If she rich, you better move over to seek opportunity yourself since life here getting tougher and tougher, with ever increasing taxation day after day.

Cheers

leecs
08-02-2009, 02:49 AM
Understand how u feel, bro, I got same feeling for my ex-gf also. Since your wife is currently such, maybe can think about it. But as for your prc lover, I think u r seeking comfort and re-identifying yourself. Don't make the decision so quickly, de-emotionalize yourself before future action, which will sure cause some reaction, be it bad or good. Why jump gun? in prc, if you got money, no scare no women lah.

Cheers and good luck.

i dont think im seeking comfort or what not. its not the nationality im looking for. its the woman im looking for. i will not make rash moves. i'll wait for her to come back, then i see how strong our relationship is, then decide.

Niceman
08-02-2009, 02:54 AM
i dont think im seeking comfort or what not. its not the nationality im looking for. its the woman im looking for. i will not make rash moves. i'll wait for her to come back, then i see how strong our relationship is, then decide.

You are in such situation with your wife and now u got a gf. U R !! I was in the same shit like yours, a lot of quarrel and frustration. She walked into your life when u r lonely, and thus, u feeling love again. Well, i wont lor soh. Is your life anyway.

mantikore
08-02-2009, 02:56 AM
Hi TS, pls get your divorce done deal first before you fully commit yourself to the Chinese gal. Keep her out of the picture from your wife else your divorce will take the hell lot out from you to your soon to be ex-wife!
My advice to you is: you can visit the Chinese gal and get her to bring you to see her family. If she's really serious about the relationship, she'll be more than happy to do so. Also DO NOT get married with the Chinese gal once you are through with the divorce, get to know her even better before you commit yourself again. Things maybe fine when you are jus BF & GF but things will be different when you are staying together and being a part of each other's life.
I have my share of experience though not with a Chinese gal, a SG gal, now going thru the divorce. I do have someone I love a lot in China and she loves me as much too. I can't commit to her now and told her about the situation, she said she'll wait. I'm touched by that and I know she really will wait as we went thru a lot together. I hope the best will turn out for you:D

leecs
08-02-2009, 03:00 AM
You are in such situation with your wife and now u got a gf. U R !! I was in the same shit like yours, a lot of quarrel and frustration. She walked into your life when u r lonely, and thus, u feeling love again. Well, i wont lor soh. Is your life anyway.

i dont wana live the 2 of us for the rest of our lives like that. i wana have a baby. but she doesnt want. shes feels that its irritating, nuisance. i did tried talking to her, but it didnt work.

just4fun
08-02-2009, 06:35 AM
I do not wana have 2 women in my life. You got it all wrong. If i've chosen the PRC, i will divorce my wife & bring the PRC to SG to stay..

that's solve your prob....divorce your wife...discard your family....bring her to sg....register...and done deal....

but before you do it....think twice and think hard....

time will judge your decision....right or wrong...u choose it....:cool:

leecs
08-02-2009, 09:34 AM
that's solve your prob....divorce your wife...discard your family....bring her to sg....register...and done deal....

but before you do it....think twice and think hard....

time will judge your decision....right or wrong...u choose it....:cool:

Its really a big decision that affects the rest of my life. I've to think over very hard. Luckily i still do not have a child if this thing really happens. If i have, it be more worse...

But for now, I really wana see my PRC. Miss her very much.

Mrxhub
08-02-2009, 11:30 AM
Its really a big decision that affects the rest of my life. I've to think over very hard. Luckily i still do not have a child if this thing really happens. If i have, it be more worse...

But for now, I really wana see my PRC. Miss her very much.

Where your PRC stay? Maybe can check background info for you...hehehe...:)

colins
08-02-2009, 11:56 AM
Its really a big decision that affects the rest of my life. I've to think over very hard. Luckily i still do not have a child if this thing really happens. If i have, it be more worse...

But for now, I really wana see my PRC. Miss her very much.

Bro I dunnoe if its the child you want or the PRC girl you want or it is the divorce (from your wife) that you want. To me, they are 3 different matters.

We dun know where your PRC girl come from and what she does for a living, but we sure know you do not marry just for a child. Else you won't be married to your wife or after you know she doesn't want a child, you wouldn't stay married if you want a child desperately enough. So the 'child-theory' do not stand.

You said luckily you do not have a child if this really happens, this further prove that you want to leave your wife not becos she dun want to bore you one. You said it yourself bro.

Then of cos, the next likely reason is, you just want your PRC girl. In order for you to feel a bit better, the child reason seems goooood. Good enough for a divorce at least. 传宗接代 right? You are at the right side of all moral implications. And that's exactly what you will tell your wife, we divorce becos you hate children and I love them.

Well I guess a lot of us feels the same about PRC girls. Hopefully after you marrying your PRC(assuming your wife agrees to your assumption that she will choose not to have children against your wishes for divorce), you get a life with lots of children. Maybe she'll even adopt some from her relatives, maybe she already got one bunch of kids with her ex, maybe she already did her sterilisation....but then those will never be your concerns anyway, right?;)

DO_YOU_BJ
08-02-2009, 01:01 PM
When I passed the floral shop on the way, I ordered a bouquet for my
wife which was her favorite. The salesgirl asked me to write the
greeting words on the card. I smiled and wrote, I ll carry you out every
morning until we are old. "

Read this somewhere before and I can never forget this story......cos it brought tears to my eyes
Well done...upz you!

DO_YOU_BJ
08-02-2009, 01:06 PM
Simple but only 1 condition.
Go there, have traditional wedding for 面子sake for her family and bring her over to stay and be your mistress.
If continue to stay there and long distance lover, wife watever you wanna call it, dun waste time!
Anyway, this to me is more lust than love.....do remember how this relationship was built and what's missing in this equation & it'll be very easy to deduce it to LUST!

leecs
08-02-2009, 03:01 PM
Where your PRC stay? Maybe can check background info for you...hehehe...:)

My PRC stays in Fuzhou, Fujian. I know when i say this, im really gonna get f**ked by you mates, but she works in a KTV. I know you guys will say why!!! there are $$$ suckers & not out for love or something. She has no choice but to work in KTV.

I've actually expressed my feelings for her & she knows it. But she says she doesnt want to break up a family. I told her this is the route im choosing, its not her fault. (I know people will sure blame her). She replied she doesnt wana be a 3rd party. So i replied if im single, would she wana be with me. She did not reply. so i replied its ok. Then she replied shes happy to know me.

Apart from the child & wedding dinner issue, I cant stand her sarcastic ways of talking to me when we are arguing. What she says will hurt me, like stabbing a dagger in your heart. Im sure you guys know how it feels. Its been going on for many years & i told her not to but she continues. Once she was asking me am i getting bored of the life now, which is only the 2 of us & that f**king dog, i said yes. Then she said why not we have a divorce & dont waste each others time. :mad:

She doesnt like to go to my parents home for dinner, or any gatherings from my family side. Everytime my relatives will ask me where is my wife. I dont know how to answer. whereas when her mum asks us to go, I steady, i go. During CNY, i asked her whether she wants to go back msia to my grandpa's home, she told me nobodys looking after the dog!! WTF! when we go to hong kong last nov, she can put the dog to the previous owner for a week, whereas going back is only 4 days.

DO_YOU_BJ
08-02-2009, 03:14 PM
Do not chop down the whole forest for a tree.
Remember, what happiness your friends have wif their PRC wives may not totally apply to you.
My advise to you is to thread very carefully.
Fujian gals in the nightscene is rated one of the most 江湖老将in the nightscene.
At 25, it's like our 35 in terms of experience.
Few most well known are from Chengdu, Fujian & ShenYang.....these all KC power extreme one.
Why only give and have nothing in return.
Look objectively, any PROPER relationship will have to give and take.
What does she want from you to be together?
What do you want from her to be together?
If everything also you give n give, i think you just enjoy the fuck wif her can liao n nottin else.
What can she give you other than you already have?
You have a job i presume
You have a car
You have a life
You prolly have your own property
Remember, you're a MAN!
She will be living off you....not you off her........
To solve matters, use brain
Heart solves shit dude.
Be objective
Time to stop kneeling & show whos the boss
Imagine, you give, you feed, your give her $$$$$$$
And you have to kneel!!!!!!!
All you get from her is a BBBJ, RAW FUCK!
You love her but does she love you?
You can never answer that for her cos only she knows
So see what a disadvantaged position you put yourself in??????
Time to get some ground back dude

leecs
08-02-2009, 03:55 PM
Do not chop down the whole forest for a tree.
Remember, what happiness your friends have wif their PRC wives may not totally apply to you.
My advise to you is to thread very carefully.
Fujian gals in the nightscene is rated one of the most 江湖老将in the nightscene.
At 25, it's like our 35 in terms of experience.
Few most well known are from Chengdu, Fujian & ShenYang.....these all KC power extreme one.
Why only give and have nothing in return.
Look objectively, any PROPER relationship will have to give and take.
What does she want from you to be together?
What do you want from her to be together?
If everything also you give n give, i think you just enjoy the fuck wif her can liao n nottin else.
What can she give you other than you already have?
You have a job i presume
You have a car
You have a life
You prolly have your own property
Remember, you're a MAN!
She will be living off you....not you off her........
To solve matters, use brain
Heart solves shit dude.
Be objective
Time to stop kneeling & show whos the boss
Imagine, you give, you feed, your give her $$$$$$$
And you have to kneel!!!!!!!
All you get from her is a BBBJ, RAW FUCK!
You love her but does she love you?
You can never answer that for her cos only she knows
So see what a disadvantaged position you put yourself in??????
Time to get some ground back dude

What you say is true. Lets keep my PRC gal aside for a while.

Im 30 this year, have a stable career, although doesnt earn much, no car though, doesnt see the need for 1. Most of my friends who got married has at least a kid, a wife that acompany him almost wherever he goes. Whereas my wife doesnt like kids, wedding dinner, going back to my parents home for dinner, etc. Its like we are living separate lives but living together in a house. Whenever i wana start a topic on babies, she will give me a face. when we quarrel, she will talk sarcastically & most of the time, i give in. She has mention divorce 3 times to me & all 3 times i give in. The life im living is very stale now..

This is not the life i want! I really envy my friends with a good wife. Of course im not sure whether my PRC will give me that life. Thats why i gotta know her better.

colins
08-02-2009, 04:18 PM
This is not the life i want! I really envy my friends with a good wife. Of course im not sure whether my PRC will give me that life. Thats why i gotta know her better.

What say you if she takes away everything else but give you a baby? Bro DYBJ has a story about that, 2 babies some more. After she earned enough, while she still got somebody in china who wants her, forsaked the sg hubby, discarded both babies and left.

Thats why you gotta know her better? Boy you're really messed up. Hear that little voice in your heart, haven't she shown you enough? Tell her story come on, dun hold that in. Let us know the story between you and your PRC. Look at the BIG title, my friend, you want to marry a China girl, NOT get to know her better.

As to your wife, if there is some much discontentment which you can't solve, and you ABSOLUTELY MUST GIVE IN, fine get a divorce. You had your choice, you decided not to divorce on the child issue and now becos there's someone else coming along who can fulfil that, ah divorce seems goood. This only proves one thing man, you want to escape the child issue when she gave you an ultimatum, now you found one little space in that PRC to escape, you wanna hide there and decides wow its time to move on!

Man, you're a mess. Get a grip, your wife should get another man, not you.

leecs
08-02-2009, 04:34 PM
Yes! im a mess.

I do want to divorce my wife & marry the PRC.

kogi
08-02-2009, 04:47 PM
What you say is true. Lets keep my PRC gal aside for a while.

Im 30 this year, have a stable career, although doesnt earn much, no car though, doesnt see the need for 1. Most of my friends who got married has at least a kid, a wife that acompany him almost wherever he goes. Whereas my wife doesnt like kids, wedding dinner, going back to my parents home for dinner, etc. Its like we are living separate lives but living together in a house. Whenever i wana start a topic on babies, she will give me a face. when we quarrel, she will talk sarcastically & most of the time, i give in. She has mention divorce 3 times to me & all 3 times i give in. The life im living is very stale now..

This is not the life i want! I really envy my friends with a good wife. Of course im not sure whether my PRC will give me that life. Thats why i gotta know her better.

Bro leecs you got two issues to look at separately. One is to get out of a loveless marriage. Your wife already challenged you to divorce. She already behaves like no longer a wife. Give you verbal abuse. I'm sure she already did her homework. 3 year separation before divorce can include living under the same roof but keeping separate lives and separate meals. That is why she dont want to socialise with your family.

See this sticky in Adult Discussions
http://www.sammyboyforum.com/adult-discussions-about-sex/40761-all-you-need-know-about-marriage-divorce-under-sg-law.html

For d) and e) above, "living apart" requires the intention of staying apart from each other with the view of ending the marriage, as well as the physical act of staying apart. However, you may still be considered as staying apart even if you and your spouse are staying at the same address, if you and your spouse have led completely separate lives and have separate households (i.e. not staying in the same bedroom, not having sexual relations, not doing any household chores such as cooking, washing, cleaning, ironing, etc. together, or for each other; not having meals together as a family; not going out together as a family, etc.) for the required length of time, for the purposes of obtaining a divorce based on three or four years' separation.


Meanwhile you are pining for the prc girl but dont make any marriage plans with her. Haven't got out of frying pan don't aim to jump into the fire. Enjoy life as a free man. Remarrying means another woman got a leash on your dick and lead you around like a dog again once the honeymoon is over. Spend 3 months with her living day to day like husband and wife doing normal routines not like a honeymoon or vacation. See whether she becomes possessive, domineering, or bored. Does the relationship feel stale? Take your time and don't rush into another marriage.

DO_YOU_BJ
08-02-2009, 04:54 PM
What you say is true. Lets keep my PRC gal aside for a while.

Im 30 this year, have a stable career, although doesnt earn much, no car though, doesnt see the need for 1. Most of my friends who got married has at least a kid, a wife that acompany him almost wherever he goes. Whereas my wife doesnt like kids, wedding dinner, going back to my parents home for dinner, etc. Its like we are living separate lives but living together in a house. Whenever i wana start a topic on babies, she will give me a face. when we quarrel, she will talk sarcastically & most of the time, i give in. She has mention divorce 3 times to me & all 3 times i give in. The life im living is very stale now..

This is not the life i want! I really envy my friends with a good wife. Of course im not sure whether my PRC will give me that life. Thats why i gotta know her better.

Let me tell you the mental state you're in right now and you go reflect about it!

1stly, you marry someone bcos you want to start a life and a family with...love got nothing to do with it.
Ok, so here's your 1st mistake, cos you married your wife and now you regret cos like you said, you envy your friends blah blah
Good things everyone can see, bad things eveyone will hide...you say i good, i say you good lor....this logic you sure know

2ndly, now comes the PRC chick. You are willing to dump your LEGAL wife to marry her. Ok, but then again, what kind of security do you have from her? Nothing! You're only 30, dun own a car & from your post, a normal wage earning bloke. What kinda life can you give her? What does she want from you? You think they come her to find love????????
Next, say she can give you babies.....yes babies but can never give you the kind of security your legal wife can give you....then how?????

Ever heard of not jumping island to island wif your eyes closed??????
That's exactly what you're doing now.
At 30, u shud be all out to whack a career path for yourself.
I've posted this before, when its time, 2 conditions must be met!!!
Its your time to meet DA ONE and her time to meet DA ONE
Other than that, how matter you love the other party watsoever, also no use.
Remember, she came over to seek wealth, and if lucky, meet someone who can give her a good life.
If you claim you are ok ok only, there are tons of that in the mother land, why choose you?

You do not marry someone to buy a HBD flat like many young couples do and live to regret it FOREVER!
You do not marry someone cos you wanna have babies
You do not marry someone cos you love her
You do not marry someone cos she's a good fuck

You marry someone cos she's reliable
You marry someone cos she's got integrity
You marry someone cos you know she'll be with you through thick and thin no matter what in sickness & in health or wealth
You marry someone cos you know she will be a good mother and can take care of the family and share your burdens and contribute to the family wealth
Most importantly, you marry someone cos she's also mentally ready to settle down and have a family of her own

If any of the above are not met, prepare for another roller coaster ride........and the best part is, dun go saying you life is messed up....cos its in your own hands. Meaning, you fucked up and no one else but yourself did it cos you are the director & lead actor in your own life dude!
Remember your 1st failure....your wife.
If i were you, i wont be too engrossed wif leaving a prob and jumping to another, hoping that this wont be a prob this time

leecs
08-02-2009, 04:56 PM
Bro leecs you got two issues to look at separately. One is to get out of a loveless marriage. Your wife already challenged you to divorce. She already behaves like no longer a wife. Give you verbal abuse. I'm sure she already did her homework. 3 year separation before divorce can include living under the same roof but keeping separate lives and separate meals. That is why she dont want to socialise with your family.

See this sticky in Adult Discussions
http://www.sammyboyforum.com/adult-discussions-about-sex/40761-all-you-need-know-about-marriage-divorce-under-sg-law.html

For d) and e) above, "living apart" requires the intention of staying apart from each other with the view of ending the marriage, as well as the physical act of staying apart. However, you may still be considered as staying apart even if you and your spouse are staying at the same address, if you and your spouse have led completely separate lives and have separate households (i.e. not staying in the same bedroom, not having sexual relations, not doing any household chores such as cooking, washing, cleaning, ironing, etc. together, or for each other; not having meals together as a family; not going out together as a family, etc.) for the required length of time, for the purposes of obtaining a divorce based on three or four years' separation.


Meanwhile you are pining for the prc girl but dont make any marriage plans with her. Haven't got out of frying pan don't aim to jump into the fire. Enjoy life as a free man. Remarrying means another woman got a leash on your dick and lead you around like a dog again once the honeymoon is over. Spend 3 months with her living day to day like husband and wife doing normal routines not like a honeymoon or vacation. See whether she becomes possessive, domineering, or bored. Does the relationship feel stale? Take your time and don't rush into another marriage.

Thanks for your advice. I will have a good talk with my wife 1st & ask what she wants in our marriage. Nevertheless, i might pop by China on end of feb for a short trip to visit her...

DO_YOU_BJ
08-02-2009, 05:00 PM
Thanks for your advice. I will have a good talk with my wife 1st & ask what she wants in our marriage. Nevertheless, i might pop by China on end of feb for a short trip to visit her...

Do wat u gotta do dude, but shud your wife decide to want to start a family now, then going there for a bonk isnt helping again...hahahahaha

leecs
08-02-2009, 05:06 PM
Do wat u gotta do dude, but shud your wife decide to want to start a family now, then going there for a bonk isnt helping again...hahahahaha

haha! its not the bonking im after if i go china! PERIOD!! just wana have her company for a few days & forget all the shit im having in singapore for a moment.

haha! My wife wont wan a baby. If she wants, we wont be having sex with condom for so many years. Just last year without condom. But still not pregnant. Maybe im weak or shes weak or shes been taking pills? I dont know.

DO_YOU_BJ
08-02-2009, 05:15 PM
haha! its not the bonking im after if i go china! PERIOD!! just wana have her company for a few days & forget all the shit im having in singapore for a moment.

Well said...that's a very normal and clear case of 逃避
Your prob is textbook bro....suggest you re-look and re-align your life
30 is the start of midlife...this is where you should see the fruits bearing in a couple of years of investing your youth...this you shud ask your PRC gal, they're experts in this.
By your statement, it's clear she's got more up there in this dept than you dude!

leecs
08-02-2009, 05:21 PM
thanks for advice. im really a mess.....

Megatronzombie
08-02-2009, 05:23 PM
Bro...

Your posting is so simple yet so touching. Me going thru a rough patch now, not the same case but your posting enriched me. Thank you.

I agree. DNA's story is freaking awesome and i feel like crying too. This is why i will never leave my wife for PRC or any other of such girls even if my wife grow old next time because she has redeemed whatever wrong she has done in the past and she stick with me thick and thin through bad times and good times. I am now addicted to FLs due to what happened in the past but will try to reduce my frequency at present and hopefully retire next time from bonking outside...

Megatronzombie
08-02-2009, 05:32 PM
haha! its not the bonking im after if i go china! PERIOD!! just wana have her company for a few days & forget all the shit im having in singapore for a moment.

haha! My wife wont wan a baby. If she wants, we wont be having sex with condom for so many years. Just last year without condom. But still not pregnant. Maybe im weak or shes weak or shes been taking pills? I dont know.

Bro, just hear me out for 10 seconds... ok maybe 20 ;p

Take care of your current loveless situation first before you get messed into another. That way your head and conscience is clear.

Secondly, at 30, its the time for you to hit it out and get going on your career and earn your retirement at 40 - 50. There is no time for these kind of relationship situation. Which brings me back to point 1 which is, solve your marriage first.

Thirdly, sit down one night and seriously ask yourself, dun be afraid, why did you marry your wife in the first place and where you see you two will be in 10 years time? Will you be happily holding hand grow old together or will there be no conversation, eyes avoiding each other everyday kind of life?

hope the above helps. I know its generalising a bit but i cant go any deeper than that. Only you can :) Good luck!

colins
08-02-2009, 05:37 PM
haha! its not the bonking im after if i go china! PERIOD!! just wana have her company for a few days & forget all the shit im having in singapore for a moment.

haha! My wife wont wan a baby. If she wants, we wont be having sex with condom for so many years. Just last year without condom. But still not pregnant. Maybe im weak or shes weak or shes been taking pills? I dont know.

Of cos its not the bonking, its NOT THE BONKING you want what. Its the assurance that you are on the right path on divorcing your wife and going on with her. Its the assurance that you are right, somehow in choosing her over your wife.

Child issue is out la, bro DYBJ. There isn't an issue with that at all. It is the fact that the wife is treating his pleads in a nonchalantly manner. Cannot give him the pride he wants. All the comparisons with his friends, it is obvious.

leecs doesn't even know what he is talking about. But dun worry leecs, your PRC girl will tell you whatever you want to hear. In fact she knows you more than yourself to even give you what you want. None of this hocus pocus wife child shit. We ain't giving you anything you want. Nothing you can earn here, not respect certainly. You may notice we din even talk about how you are KC-ed by the PRC girl, although that is common knowledge.

Do tell your PRC KTV girl story, if you dare.;)

leecs
08-02-2009, 05:41 PM
Bro, just hear me out for 10 seconds... ok maybe 20 ;p

Take care of your current loveless situation first before you get messed into another. That way your head and conscience is clear.

Secondly, at 30, its the time for you to hit it out and get going on your career and earn your retirement at 40 - 50. There is no time for these kind of relationship situation. Which brings me back to point 1 which is, solve your marriage first.

Thirdly, sit down one night and seriously ask yourself, dun be afraid, why did you marry your wife in the first place and where you see you two will be in 10 years time? Will you be happily holding hand grow old together or will there be no conversation, eyes avoiding each other everyday kind of life?

hope the above helps. I know its generalising a bit but i cant go any deeper than that. Only you can :) Good luck!

Take care of your current loveless situation first before you get messed into another. That way your head and conscience is clear.
Thanks. I will take care of this 1st

Secondly, at 30, its the time for you to hit it out and get going on your career and earn your retirement at 40 - 50. There is no time for these kind of relationship situation. Which brings me back to point 1 which is, solve your marriage first.
Im now working very hard & earning as much $$$ as i can. I hope i can solve my marriage, but my feelings for her has somewhat died down.Not due to my PRC gal. But due to her attitude.

Thirdly, sit down one night and seriously ask yourself, dun be afraid, why did you marry your wife in the first place and where you see you two will be in 10 years time? Will you be happily holding hand grow old together or will there be no conversation, eyes avoiding each other everyday kind of life?
She wants to live the 2 of us for the rest of our lives. .

DO_YOU_BJ
08-02-2009, 05:49 PM
See how point 3 contridicts point 2?
Ok me wash hands.......Sofitel rooms balcony door can open one.....hehehahaha

leecs
08-02-2009, 05:50 PM
See how point 3 contridicts point 2?
Ok me wash hands.......Sofitel rooms balcony door can open one.....hehehahaha

haha..........

Megatronzombie
08-02-2009, 05:53 PM
So deep down you already have your answers..

by the way... i learnt something many years ago when i too was busy pursuing career and money in my 20s... never ever neglet your other half, they will never appreciate the diamonds, jewels or properties yyou bestow on them not because they dont understand but because when they first started off with you, you have nothing but yourselves to give and thats what they love about you, not your properties bla bla bla. Know what i mean? If a girl get satisfied with material wealth, she probably wont be there for you at the worst of your times.

Take care of your current loveless situation first before you get messed into another. That way your head and conscience is clear.
Thanks. I will take care of this 1st

Secondly, at 30, its the time for you to hit it out and get going on your career and earn your retirement at 40 - 50. There is no time for these kind of relationship situation. Which brings me back to point 1 which is, solve your marriage first.
Im now working very hard & earning as much $$$ as i can. I hope i can solve my marriage, but my feelings for her has somewhat died down.Not due to my PRC gal. But due to her attitude.

Thirdly, sit down one night and seriously ask yourself, dun be afraid, why did you marry your wife in the first place and where you see you two will be in 10 years time? Will you be happily holding hand grow old together or will there be no conversation, eyes avoiding each other everyday kind of life?
She wants to live the 2 of us for the rest of our lives. Im not able to give her that.

colins
08-02-2009, 06:06 PM
See how point 3 contridicts point 2?
Ok me wash hands.......Sofitel rooms balcony door can open one.....hehehahaha

Many many contradictions other than this la.

Just now its wife dun want child, now it is her attitude.
Just now dun want child but can go raw, no pregnancy also dun know why, got pills or not also dun know.
Ask wife what she wants but in the same sentence want to go China very soon, like get the answer from wife also boh lasah.
Want to marry the girl can say still need to know her more....

Best of all, no story yet. Just "I really want this, and you wont understand cos its not this that I want, is it actually that..." kinda meaning.

Come on mr leecs, tell your story. ;)

Saint Dogbert
08-02-2009, 09:36 PM
You cannot have your cake and eat it. Either go for a divorce or forget about marrying her.

cunt_search
08-02-2009, 11:23 PM
Sigh... it is because greedy guys like you that cause me to be left on the shelf :(


agreed 100%; one leg two boats:D
beware split in centre:D

cunt_search
08-02-2009, 11:34 PM
Let me tell you t....

You do not marry someone
1) to buy a HBD flat like many young couples do and live to regret it FOREVER!
2) cos you wanna have babies
3) cos you love her
4) cos she's a good fuck

You marry someone
1) cos she's reliable
2) cos she's got integrity
3) cos you know she'll be with you through thick and thin no matter what in sickness & in health or wealth
4) cos you know she will be a good mother and can take care of the family and share your burdens and contribute to the family wealth
5) cos she's also mentally ready to settle down and have a family of her own

....

Bro , I like your analysis and dissection of the topics
Honours Student Calibre:D

BTW, Thanks Bro Colins for upping my points; will return favor when capable:p

kogi
09-02-2009, 12:07 AM
She wants to live the 2 of us for the rest of our lives. .

Plus the dog.
She doesn't treat you well, she don't want to have kids with you, she don't want to socialise with your side of the family. She don't want to make the first move to break up but she's poking you in the back to be the bad guy to initiate it by challenging you to divorce.
One simple question. Which does she treat more lovingly. You or the dog? You know what your decision is.
No need to factor in the PRC girl to this. That issue is a sideshow to the main event. You may even realise there are many other fish in the sea once you are free.

mebirdie
09-02-2009, 01:22 AM
After reading I find that you are a problem as well.

You are finding an excuse to divorce your wife.
First you get married to form a family.
Now you want to married another girl to kick off your wife.

Whether you want to divorce is another thing.
Do not mix around with the PRC appearance.

You can divorce but you may not have to marry the PRC girl.

HairyBottom
09-02-2009, 01:25 AM
Take care of your current loveless situation first before you get messed into another. That way your head and conscience is clear.
Thanks. I will take care of this 1st

Secondly, at 30, its the time for you to hit it out and get going on your career and earn your retirement at 40 - 50. There is no time for these kind of relationship situation. Which brings me back to point 1 which is, solve your marriage first.
Im now working very hard & earning as much $$$ as i can. I hope i can solve my marriage, but my feelings for her has somewhat died down.Not due to my PRC gal. But due to her attitude.

Thirdly, sit down one night and seriously ask yourself, dun be afraid, why did you marry your wife in the first place and where you see you two will be in 10 years time? Will you be happily holding hand grow old together or will there be no conversation, eyes avoiding each other everyday kind of life?
She wants to live the 2 of us for the rest of our lives. .

whether issit the current wife or future wife...in life its always difficult to find that someone who can perfectly matches the other's expectations. Before one decides to end a relationship and moves on to another one he has to be sure of his objectives in seeking a relationship - which, In this case the bro involved is clearly unsure of...it seems like the China girl is but a tool for him to run away from the problems he is currently facing in his marital affair...which, according to him...r mainly due to the uncompromising attitude of his wife towards childbirth.

in my opinion the bro involved should first try his best to tackle the main problem on hand...have some heart to heart dialogue with his wife...see if there r any possible solutions to compromise both's needs and expectations. At age 30 one may not be able to handle and overcome the problems marriage life gets to offer alone so it will be good to also seek professional advice with some counsellors annoymously if things get too heavy. Every marriage couples have their own problems but if the problems can be faced in a positive light the ending will certainly be very different...depending on individual's approach towards them. Jumping straight into the arms of a new girl to run away from existing problems will not do. It will only complicate matters instead of simplifying them. ;)

leecs
09-02-2009, 01:26 AM
Many many contradictions other than this la.

Just now its wife dun want child, now it is her attitude.
Just now dun want child but can go raw, no pregnancy also dun know why, got pills or not also dun know.
Ask wife what she wants but in the same sentence want to go China very soon, like get the answer from wife also boh lasah.
Want to marry the girl can say still need to know her more....

Best of all, no story yet. Just "I really want this, and you wont understand cos its not this that I want, is it actually that..." kinda meaning.

Come on mr leecs, tell your story. ;)

Bro, i know there are many contradictions in what i write. You gotta be in my shoes to know it.

Im sorry.

leecs
09-02-2009, 01:36 AM
whether issit the current wife or future wife...in life its always difficult to find that someone who can perfectly matches the other's expectations. Before one decides to end a relationship and moves on to another one he has to be sure of his objectives in seeking a relationship - which, In this case the bro involved is clearly unsure of...it seems like the China girl is but a tool for him to run away from the problems he is currently facing in his marital affair...which, according to him...r mainly due to the uncompromising attitude of his wife towards childbirth.

in my opinion the bro involved should first try his best to tackle the main problem on hand...have some heart to heart dialogue with his wife...see if there r any possible solutions to compromise both's needs and expectations. At age 30 one may not be able to handle and overcome the problems marriage life gets to offer alone so it will be good to also seek professional advice with some counsellors annoymously if things get too heavy. Every marriage couples have their own problems but if the problems can be faced in a positive light the ending will certainly be very different...depending on individual's approach towards them. Jumping straight into the arms of a new girl to run away from existing problems will not do. It will only complicate matters instead of simplifying them. ;)

Even if theres no PRC or any girls in my picture, I've already somewhat no faith in this marriage. I've been giving in most of the time & keep my grievances in my heart. Did wana try to have a heart ot heart talk with her. But im afraid it will end up with her saying why dont we get a divorce.

Seems like she care for the dog more than my family gatherings or what not.

colins
09-02-2009, 01:51 AM
Bro, i know there are many contradictions in what i write. You gotta be in my shoes to know it.

Im sorry.

In your shoes? Try me.

For the last time, tell your story.

FL Lover
09-02-2009, 11:43 AM
Even if theres no PRC or any girls in my picture, I've already somewhat no faith in this marriage. I've been giving in most of the time & keep my grievances in my heart. Did wana try to have a heart ot heart talk with her. But im afraid it will end up with her saying why dont we get a divorce.

Seems like she care for the dog more than my family gatherings or what not.

Bro, I can understand your situation. BTW, how long have u been married? Did you have a heart to heart talk with your wife? Did you tell her that you really wanted a child of yor own and a family will be completed if you have a child? Secondly, did u ask her whether she still love you as what she had in the past? Also ask yourself. Why did you marry her in the first place? Do you still love and care for her?

Lastly did boh of you go for any marriage counseling? It really helps to make yor marriage works again. THIS IS THE LAST RESORT IF BOTH OF YOU STILL WANT TO KEEP YOR MARRIAGE. But even after you have went for the counseling and the problems still exist, maybe its time to end.

Many bros over here will tell you to hang on to the marriage. As for me, my advise...TRY TO SAVE YOUR MARRIAGE FIRST. But after trying and still fails, by all means... go find your new HAPPINESS.

You are still young.. only 30. In fact I am around yor age. Married too but with kids. I can understand why you feel that way. In fact I was in yor path last time, got KCed by FL to an extent of even dropping everything I had and moved to her country to settle down. I almost did that but thankfully, someone came and pull me back - My WIFE. She cried on the day I told her that I will divorce her. My wife told me one thing that I will always remb for life.... MY PROMISE TO HER WHEN I ASK HER TO MARRY ME THAT I WILL ALWAYS BE WITH HER WHETHER POOR, RICH OR SICK AND NO MATTER WHAT HAPPENED.

TS, I need to emphasis to you that when I mentioned to you to go and find HAPPINESS... MAKE SURE YOU REALLY MARRY A GIRL OF YOR EXPECTATIONS. DONT MAKE THE SAME MISTAKE AGAIN. NO POINT IN MARRYING YOR PRC JUST BECAUSE SHE IS YOUNG, SWEET AND TREATS YOU WELL. GETTING A WIFE IS DIFF FROM GETTING A GF.

Bro, try all means to change yor marriage life first before ending yor marriage. Every family had their ups and downs. Your friend might have his family problems as well. Only end yor marriage if both of you no longer love each other and after you have tried all means to save the marriage.


It's fate that brings both of you together. Try to treasure what you have presently.

DO_YOU_BJ
09-02-2009, 01:12 PM
The approach of this whole episode is so screwed up.
1st he comes in here and blame on his wife
next his dog
then he say envy
then say she always suggest divorce
then he say the prc gal best in the world

Man, the whole world like owe him like that.
Dude, i got 4 wives, many employees and companies and i dun even speak like you.
You shud take a good look at yourself............

kogi
09-02-2009, 02:03 PM
Even if theres no PRC or any girls in my picture, I've already somewhat no faith in this marriage. I've been giving in most of the time & keep my grievances in my heart. Did wana try to have a heart ot heart talk with her. But im afraid it will end up with her saying why dont we get a divorce.

Seems like she care for the dog more than my family gatherings or what not.

Bro leecs. Be a man, be decisive. If you have gangrene on your foot do you take PRC panadol for months while the rot is spreading to the rest of your body? Or do you go for an operation? Short term pain long term gain. You know what you need to do. Dont forget to transfer your wealth to your parents and siblings before she can grab them in the divorce settlement. As Obi Wan might say, Do not waver once you have made up your mind. Any weakness in resolve will stengthen the opposition.

Mrxhub
09-02-2009, 02:03 PM
Dude, i got 4 wives, many employees and companies and i dun even speak like you.
You shud take a good look at yourself............

Wow....bro, care to hire me in your company....hehehe :D

mike1304k
09-02-2009, 02:23 PM
I would just like to say one thing. Marriage is a 2 way thing. Sometimes it is the girl who is at fault. She may have wanted or expected things that the guy could not give and is therefore dis-satisfied and she wants and out. Sometimes, it is because she is no longer in love. It can happen to the guy too. When both parties start to feel this way, that is when they will seek all reasons to divorce. But we must always remember the vows we took when we got married... Do you remember it? Why and how did the feeling go away? Not looking for faults hor... It is easy to find fault or to blame, but just as a reflection of the beginning of the end. Then from there, is this the end you want? She?

Third parties are always a bother. If we find ourselves in a loveless marriage, we will always say "how I wished I met you before my wife and so on". But then the grass is always greener on the other side of the fence. Is this the case now?

For me, I keep it simple. I used another example in another thread, but I will use yet another example of using brains. I mentioned that I have a minah who is sms'ing me all the time, she is really touchy and is really nice to me. So now the question is what do I do about it? She just sms'ed that she is jobless and her boy boy wants to dump her... My green horny monster goes "Sure makan liao... onsssssss"... but my brains tell me that this is a straight road to hell for me.... If I onsss her, I will lose everything as she is not the simple girl.... So I do not even react. Not even show her that I really care.... Just say "Poor thing... hope things turn out well". this type of thinking sure makes life damn boring. But it keeps the headaches down and the problems in the homefront down too. By avoiding traps, you ensure that you can keep a clear head. If you have a family, treasure it lah.... Don let it go to waste lah... The years and the amount of time you have spent on it is not worth leaving it behind lah...

sushi88
09-02-2009, 04:14 PM
Even if theres no PRC or any girls in my picture, I've already somewhat no faith in this marriage. I've been giving in most of the time & keep my grievances in my heart. Did wana try to have a heart ot heart talk with her. But im afraid it will end up with her saying why dont we get a divorce.

Seems like she care for the dog more than my family gatherings or what not.

Bro Leecs,

I understand how you feel bcoz I same situation as you 5 years ago and I want to share my humble experience.

I am now mid-30s. My ex-wife (who was my longtime school sweetheart) also do not want children. After marriage, she became a pain and we quarrel almost every day (sometimes neighbour got to call police). My job and life was affected. I was miserable. At that time, I began going to HCs and KTVs, to forget my misery. I met and fell deeply in love with 1 of the most beautiful PRC meimei (not just face n body beauty but character as well) I have met in my life, someone who I thought was send from the Heavely God. I made up my mind to divorce my ex-wife and to marry her. Divorce with my ex-wife came eventually.

After my divorce, many of my closest frens advise me to take my time before marrying my PRC ger fren. I still remember they tell me not to jump from the frying pan to the fire. So I continue my relationship with my PRC ger fren and work very hard in my job so that I can build a really happy family in future. I gave my PRC ger fren money and bought her many expensive gifts. Then 1 year after my divorce, I lost my good paying job. During this time I cannot give my PRC ger fren the gifts and money that she asked for. Soon our relationship became more distance. Then oneday she handed me a bomb ....she just phone me to tell me she is in deeply in love with another man and she wants to end our relationship. She refused to meet me even. I was really heartbroken then and drank heavilly to drown my sorrows

I found out later from sources that the new man my PRC ger fren has was a rich married-Singaporean biz man. He gave her wat I could not give her then.

Now, 3 years later, I have again a good paying job and I am now a happier person. Still not married but have many young SYT ger frens. Glad I listen to my frens advice.

My little advice is if you cannot get along with your marriage, then divorce your wife as a last resort after giving a last try. But DON'T DON"T marry your PRC ger fren immediately should you ever divorce your first wife. Take your time with the PRC ger fren. Test her. No right or wrong answer here. Only time will tell.

Good luck to u Bro.

DNAdevil
09-02-2009, 04:55 PM
You do not marry someone to buy a HBD flat like many young couples do and live to regret it FOREVER!
You do not marry someone cos you wanna have babies
You do not marry someone cos you love her
You do not marry someone cos she's a good fuck

You marry someone cos she's reliable
You marry someone cos she's got integrity
You marry someone cos you know she'll be with you through thick and thin no matter what in sickness & in health or wealth
You marry someone cos you know she will be a good mother and can take care of the family and share your burdens and contribute to the family wealth
Most importantly, you marry someone cos she's also mentally ready to settle down and have a family of her own



very very very nice advice!! love it, btw thanks for the ups...


thanks for the bro who like the post that i posted here even thought its not mine

To leecs, i noe that im not even married dunno how a marriage life is when it turn bad, but frm all the good bros here giving u all the super advices, do give it a try, tink abt how u and ur wife started, y u wanna marry her in the first place? in furture ur life without her u can or not?( remember its life WITHOUT the PRC), really sit down and have a good tok with her, NOE wat she wan and let her NOE wat u wan, when there is a problems there is always a solution, nothing u cant work things put. all the best in which ever way u wanted to take in the end. :)

slider_72
09-02-2009, 06:03 PM
You marry someone cos she's reliable
You marry someone cos she's got integrity
You marry someone cos you know she'll be with you through thick and thin no matter what in sickness & in health or wealth
You marry someone cos you know she will be a good mother and can take care of the family and share your burdens and contribute to the family wealth
Most importantly, you marry someone cos she's also mentally ready to settle down and have a family of her own

I think this is your best post ever bro. I think in this thread, this post together with the story bro DNAdevil copied are the best read I have had for quite a while.

slider_72
09-02-2009, 06:35 PM
Mr leecs, before you go about thinking about this and that, you forgot you made a very fundamental assumption which may put a spanner in the works. You assume that your Fujian KTV girlfriend will agree to marry you. In an earlier post, you mentioned that you asked but she did not answer you. Ever asked yourself why she did not answer your question?

With your wife, have you ever tried to ascertain where the problem lied? Did you and your wife ever had good times together? If you did, what happened and when did it go downhill?

Actually I got a lot more things to say but after reading all your posts, I feel that I would be talking to a blank wall. You are so focused on divorcing your wife and simply coming here to seek validation from the other bros for your own selfish course of action.

You have only mentioned the problems you see in your wife, have you ever considered whether there are issues about you that rubs her the wrong way too? I find it inconceivable that your wife would turn from a loving woman that you married into a monster that you painted her out to be without any good reason. Now I am assuming that she was a loving woman when you married her. If she was already like this when you married her, then I say you went in with your eyes open and don't put the blame on her. Caveat emptor.

If you bothered to read and think about the earlier posts from all the other bros here, you will see a very consistent trend, the opinion is unanimous that you are fantasizing about marrying your PRC girlfriend as a form of escape from your domestic issues. Think about it, it is all a fantasy on your part. She has you so damned entwined around her fingers that she does not even need to pretend agreeing to marry you in order to have you eating out of her hands.

Go home to your wife dude. If you and your PRC girlfriend are truly and really in love with each other, I am sure she will not mind being your mistress. Mind you, that brings about other problems which we can discuss in a separate thread.

colins
09-02-2009, 09:12 PM
I think this is your best post ever bro. I think in this thread, this post together with the story bro DNAdevil copied are the best read I have had for quite a while.

I suspect bro DYBJ is just talking about his wives. Although no coincidence that it all happen to all of them, its more like his choice of women is damn bloody clear. Family is the biggest wealth anybody can ever get (beside health la), thats the lesson I learnt. ;)

DO_YOU_BJ
09-02-2009, 09:26 PM
Wow....bro, care to hire me in your company....hehehe :D

HAHAHAHA wait long long dude....hahahahaha

very very very nice advice!! love it, btw thanks for the ups...

No worries dude....keep up the good work and keep on contributing!

I think this is your best post ever bro. I think in this thread, this post together with the story bro DNAdevil copied are the best read I have had for quite a while.

Really ah....hehehe kumxia kumxia

I suspect bro DYBJ is just talking about his wives. Although no coincidence that it all happen to all of them, its more like his choice of women is damn bloody clear. Family is the biggest wealth anybody can ever get (beside health la), thats the lesson I learnt. ;)

Of cos wat...family is wealth.....
Wats the point if you have all the $$$ in the world and your life is all fucked up
If a woman really loves you, and wants to be wif you, she will be willing to be a mistress....no doubt about it, but if there's more than meets the eye, then she'll say things like...."OK SO WAT U GONNA DO ABOUT THAT WOMAN????"

colins
09-02-2009, 10:00 PM
If a woman really loves you, and wants to be wif you, she will be willing to be a mistress....no doubt about it, but if there's more than meets the eye, then she'll say things like...."OK SO WAT U GONNA DO ABOUT THAT WOMAN????"

For you, it is OK SO WHAT U GONNA DO ABOUT ALL THAT WOMEN AND ALL THAT SINGERS AND ALL THAT BITCHES!!!! :D

DO_YOU_BJ
09-02-2009, 11:26 PM
I leave that to our dear Cassanova la
Me now got free ride so will enjoy it hehehehe

rtcb68
09-02-2009, 11:39 PM
Hi,
how come my thread become other people thread.
Firstly, i am not divorcing my wife. I do love my wife and family.
But i also love my gf from China. I just cant control myself to love her.
And she do love me also. She knew that i am married and she do not
want anything from me either.
I suppost to meet her family in few month time, she had mention to me
that about our issue on married to her family. and her parent told her
that up to us to decide how we want (her family did not know I am married)
But I think that to be fair to her,I want to give her a customise married.
Do any want know is it safe to ROM in China? Thanks :confused:

cencen
09-02-2009, 11:42 PM
Do any want know is it safe to ROM in China? Thanks :confused:

Nothing can be full proofed.:)

cablesnwires
10-02-2009, 12:04 AM
Even if theres no PRC or any girls in my picture, I've already somewhat no faith in this marriage. I've been giving in most of the time & keep my grievances in my heart. Did wana try to have a heart ot heart talk with her. But im afraid it will end up with her saying why dont we get a divorce.

Seems like she care for the dog more than my family gatherings or what not.

Bro leecs,

Just basing on this sentence marked in bold, I KNOW you want this marriage to work. If you are hell bent on getting a divorce, you would not have hesitated to talk to her.

In other words, you are now trying to find the right excuse to divorce your current wife, trust me brother, there is no right excuse for you to do just that.

Let me ask you this? Did you really, really tried to salvage your marriage? Or you are bottling it inside and that you expect her to know what is troubling you?

I see this as a lack of communication between the parties (haha.. not that I do not have this problem as well).

Why not this way, just a suggestion.

Talk to your wife about going to see a marriage counselor. Perhaps there are common grounds which the both can work on it. Note that it takes 2 hands to clap or slap each other. Work and iron out those issues. Do it for the next 6 months, and if it still doesn't work out, well, it's still not too late to get a divorce.

As to your gf in china, tell her to wait for you for 6 months, and use this 6 months to gauge her affection and love for you. For all you know, she's out to milk you. Money lost is okay, but feeling hurt will not be that easy.

Anyway, it is your life. How you choose to live it, it's your choice.

Good luck leecs.

cablesnwires
10-02-2009, 12:06 AM
Do any want know is it safe to ROM in China? Thanks :confused:

If your wife found out about this and make a report, you will be liable for bigamy charge, which is a jailable offence.

Don't even think about this, bro rtcb68. :rolleyes:

kiko
10-02-2009, 12:09 AM
Bro TS: My advice to u is please be faithful to your wife, love her. And you should break off any relationship with your china gal.

DO_YOU_BJ
10-02-2009, 12:29 AM
TS, as per Kiko, u shud break off your fling wif your china gal......be faithful to your wife and pass the PRC over to Kiko to be dealt wif!!!!!

kogi
10-02-2009, 01:17 AM
Hi,
how come my thread become other people thread.
Firstly, i am not divorcing my wife. I do love my wife and family.
But i also love my gf from China. I just cant control myself to love her.
And she do love me also. She knew that i am married and she do not
want anything from me either.
I suppost to meet her family in few month time, she had mention to me
that about our issue on married to her family. and her parent told her
that up to us to decide how we want (her family did not know I am married)
But I think that to be fair to her,I want to give her a customise married.
Do any want know is it safe to ROM in China? Thanks :confused:

Bro rtcb68 your thread become other people thread because you went missing after the 1st post and now only show up in post #103. Most of the first 35 posts refer to your case. You want to give your PRC lady a customary marriage to wayang her parents without ROM maybe you can try. See how long the wayang can last. Good luck with that. Do read my post in #33 about getting your balls put in a fire before you proceed with ROM in China.

colins
10-02-2009, 01:29 AM
TS, as per Kiko, u shud break off your fling wif your china gal......be faithful to your wife and pass the PRC over to Kiko to be dealt wif!!!!!

HAHAHAHAHA......I can't imagine any punishment more severe than that!

DO_I_BJ
10-02-2009, 03:17 AM
HAHAHAHAHA......I can't imagine any punishment more severe than that!

actually u are doing a favor to the PRC.
lol

leecs
10-02-2009, 09:42 AM
Hi! Thanks for your reply. Although many have given me positive & negative feedback, This is the story of my wife & me.

My story goes like this:
I gotta know my wife back in 1995-96. She was my friends GF back then. Their relationship was ups & downs with breaks & patches. Then in 2000, I think my friend did something that me very “dulan”, so I chased my wife for revenge. (At that time, their relationship was already in the rocks again). So the day I ORD, I’ve got her.

At 1st the relationship was just play play, but then I realized that we love & care for each other. At that time we were so poor that we share a bowl of soup & 2 bowls of rice almost everyday. (We were both working at Thomson plaza but different shops.) Despite getting nagged by my dad, I still take his car every Saturday night & bring her out.

Then there’s 1 time we quarrel, I forgot already. She said things very sarcastically! Like a dagger piercing my heart. That was the time I started to keep it in my heart. I gave in & let her win because I love her.

During our 5 year relationship, there are quarrels along the way & she continued saying sarcastic things to me. I told her many times not to, but she continued. I gave in & let her win.

There was once I asked her about forming a family & having babies. She then told me she doesn’t like babies. She finds them irritating & nuisance. I thought she was just joking. So we got ROMed on 05. I was planning like having a house in 06 then have a child in 07. But she shattered my dreams.
Ever since we moved into our new house, We were having protected sex since we been together. So 1 fine night, I decided not to use it. She flared up & we stopped ½ way. Ever since then, every time when I don’t wana use, she’ll flare up & said shes not ready, baby’s irraitating, nuisance, etc very forcefully. Any reason she could think of. Most of the time I would request for sex & she will reject most of the time, saying tired, no mood, tomorrow morning gotta work. So I have no choice but to DIY. (Back then, never though of finding FL or KTVs.) She also said she wants to live the both of use like that forever.

Then came the wedding dinner. My parents & relatives have been asking when is our wedding dinner. Everytime I ask her about this, She’ll give me a face & said she doesn’t want a dinner, all sorts of reasons came out of her mouth. There was once she told me “then we shouldn’t get married” or something like that. It hurts me right through the heart. I was like stuck between my parents & her.

She would also rarely come to my parent’s home for dinner or any gatherings. I will always make it a point to go if her mum invites me for dinner. This year during CNY, My mum & I asked her whether she wants to go to Msia for CNY. She said no. Nobody’s taking care of her dog. But during last Nov when we go to Hong Kong, She can give it to the previous owner to take care for a week, wheras in Msia, its only 4 days. Well, her dog is more important than my sick grandpa!!! Most of my relatives asked me why didn’t your wife come back, I don’t know how to answer.

All this issues has been going on since 07 untill now & all the things she said sarcastically to me, I kept it & never flare out because I love her. Early this year, we were having dinner & I pop out a casual question of babies. She immeadieatly said that she doesn’t like & don’t want babies with confidence. Then she asked me this “Am I getting bored of the life now” I told her yes. Then the moment of truth: ‘Why don’t we get a divorce & don’t waste each others time’, ‘we shouldn’t get married so early’. At that point of time, my impression on her changed 360 degrees! She totaled said divorce 3 times on 3 occasions when I wana have a chat with her. From that point onwards, My feelings for her has faded. I refrain from fucking her, touching her, etc. Conversations are at the very minimal. At most chat abit, that’s it

Im still finding a right time to really have a chat with her & ask her about our future plans. No point dragging or living the live it is now. Im sick & tired of this life. If it cant work out, then its time for us to go.

This story is somewhat the best of my memory I can think of now. There are more sarcastic things that I cant think of now.

colins
10-02-2009, 10:01 AM
Thank you for your story on your wife leecs. It is the story of your PRC girl which I was interested in, bro.

mike1304k
10-02-2009, 10:21 AM
Bro Leecs,


I am sorry to hear your situation. My wife was also like that in the beginning. The first time we made love and I came too fast inside her, she also made a big hoo ha. In the first few years, and during pak tor, she also said very clearly she did not want kids. After marriage, I had to do the withdrawal method for almost 3 years. But in the end, I slowly convinced her that having a family is a beautiful thing and that it is the right of every female. Instead of blaming or being angry or hurt, try to understand why she does not like children. My wife was also like dat. She did not like to look after them and also did not have the confidence. She was also afraid of the pain and because her previous boyfriend was an assehole and she was afraid that once they had children, she would be screwed if he did not accept the responsibility. I changed all that. I made her feel secure in me enough to want to go through the challenge of giving birth.

So Bro Leecs, try the psychology approach. Not the "find another love" approach. Women can change their feelings suddenly. My ex suddenly dropped me when her first love came back... But that is life... The big problem is find out why and if the why is a small thing that can be fixed, fix it. But if it is something that cannot, then be a man and walk away from it lor. Just like being to walk away from a WL, as a man, if you have done nothing wrong and are sure that your wife will be happier in divorcing you, then give her that happiness. If it is something that can be fixed, then you owe it to her to fix it. It can be something as simple as she has lost confidence in you. Or she has found someone else. But whatever the reason, just take a step back and do not play emotions or hurt back, just see where you want to go with it.

HCKing
10-02-2009, 11:15 AM
bro leecs, easy 4 u to want a child but she is the one bearing it and after giving birth she will also be the one looking after it so cant blame her for her 2nd thoughts abt giving birth. also frm what u have written i think yr wife goes 4 二人世界 kind of marriage life so if u dont like such lifestyle then maybe she isnt the one 4 u. seems to me u r jealous that she pays more attention to the dog than u and yr family like tat even if she bears u a child there will still be problems, who kns u may start complaining that she gives the child much more attention than u. so hw?

1st thing is have a gd talk with her, find out hw she feels and wat she is nt happy abt, dont just keep numb and thinks u knw everything abt her. who knws she might also have alot of unhappiness towards u and is seeking advice at flowerpod forum.:p

2nd thing is tell her wat u expect frm a wife, dont just loon and expect her to knw hw u feel automatically. some ppl must kana farked than will wake up ideas. if cant communicate at all then bo bian liao means nt fated to be together as couples.

as for the PRC girl, aiyah u just needed some attention nw mah so if u cant find it at hm u have to seek elsewhere so its understandable. dont waste too much time and effort on it, settle yr marriage problems 1st, then wrk hard 4 yr career, after tat if still gt time to spare then u can start thinking abt PRC girl but seriously nw economy so bad doubt u can afford a chio PRC wife at the moment.:D

be realistic bro!

leecs
10-02-2009, 11:17 AM
Bro Leecs,


I am sorry to hear your situation. My wife was also like that in the beginning. The first time we made love and I came too fast inside her, she also made a big hoo ha. In the first few years, and during pak tor, she also said very clearly she did not want kids. After marriage, I had to do the withdrawal method for almost 3 years. But in the end, I slowly convinced her that having a family is a beautiful thing and that it is the right of every female. Instead of blaming or being angry or hurt, try to understand why she does not like children. My wife was also like dat. She did not like to look after them and also did not have the confidence. She was also afraid of the pain and because her previous boyfriend was an assehole and she was afraid that once they had children, she would be screwed if he did not accept the responsibility. I changed all that. I made her feel secure in me enough to want to go through the challenge of giving birth.

So Bro Leecs, try the psychology approach. Not the "find another love" approach. Women can change their feelings suddenly. My ex suddenly dropped me when her first love came back... But that is life... The big problem is find out why and if the why is a small thing that can be fixed, fix it. But if it is something that cannot, then be a man and walk away from it lor. Just like being to walk away from a WL, as a man, if you have done nothing wrong and are sure that your wife will be happier in divorcing you, then give her that happiness. If it is something that can be fixed, then you owe it to her to fix it. It can be something as simple as she has lost confidence in you. Or she has found someone else. But whatever the reason, just take a step back and do not play emotions or hurt back, just see where you want to go with it.

My wife is strong & determined in whatever she thinks or say. No means no, yes means yes. Like the dog. Before my biz trip to Japan last sep, I told her that please don’t take in the dog. It will be very dirty & smelly in the house. She neglected my request & when I return home, the dog is in my house. Its not the dog I hate, it’s the amount of housework I gotta do every 2-3 days after work. I vacuumed; mop every corner of the house because of the dog’s hair. If all the hairs were to combined, it can be a fur ball for cats!!! 我真得很累. I felt very ‘dirty’ at home no matter how clean the house was. She even asked the dog to call me爸爸. Do you know how I feel?. 我忍.

As for babies, if you know her or you happen to see her with children, you will know what I mean. There are a few occasions where my friends baby were a month old or their birthdays. I brought to on 2 occasions. I would then carry my friends baby & play. She doesn’t wana even look at it. When I pass the baby to her, She doesn’t want & push it away. Most of my friends were puzzled by it. There was also once my colleague’s baby is in hospital. I brought my wife to visit her. She wont even wana see, touch or carry the baby. My colleague was puzzled too.

Her intention is to live the both of us + the dog for the rest of our lives. Everyday when I go home, I feel so bored &空虚. I would play my guitar, use the com, whereas she would watch TV, read story book & play with the fucking dog!!!

My feelings for her has already died.

leecs
10-02-2009, 11:34 AM
bro leecs, easy 4 u to want a child but she is the one bearing it and after giving birth she will also be the one looking after it so cant blame her for her 2nd thoughts abt giving birth. also frm what u have written i think yr wife goes 4 二人世界 kind of marriage life so if u dont like such lifestyle then maybe she isnt the one 4 u. seems to me u r jealous that she pays more attention to the dog than u and yr family like tat even if she bears u a child there will still be problems, who kns u may start complaining that she gives the child much more attention than u. so hw?

1st thing is have a gd talk with her, find out hw she feels and wat she is nt happy abt, dont just keep numb and thinks u knw everything abt her. who knws she might also have alot of unhappiness towards u and is seeking advice at flowerpod forum.:p

2nd thing is tell her wat u expect frm a wife, dont just loon and expect her to knw hw u feel automatically. some ppl must kana farked than will wake up ideas. if cant communicate at all then bo bian liao means nt fated to be together as couples.

as for the PRC girl, aiyah u just needed some attention nw mah so if u cant find it at hm u have to seek elsewhere so its understandable. dont waste too much time and effort on it, settle yr marriage problems 1st, then wrk hard 4 yr career, after tat if still gt time to spare then u can start thinking abt PRC girl but seriously nw economy so bad doubt u can afford a chio PRC wife at the moment.:D

be realistic bro!

Hi! Its not the taking care or giving birth that she doesn’t want a baby. She wants a二人世界 kind of marriage life, which I don’t want & its getting bored. She don’t even like children, how can she give more attention? ‘Im afraid that if she really gives me a baby, then I be the 1 taking care. It will be like she’s taking care of the dog, Im taking care of the baby. Then what’s the use of a mother? I rather find another girl who likes children.

From what she told me, she said I have a very funny family. My family would make it a point to have gatherings with my aunts & uncles (more frequent ever since my aunt passed away & her 2 small kids needed more attention). She would give me excuses of not tagging along with me for the gatherings. whereas her family doesn’t. They would like stay away from them as far as possible. She also said that my family has a funny lifestyle. I don’t know what that means though.

mike1304k
10-02-2009, 11:35 AM
My wife is strong & determined in whatever she thinks or say. No means no, yes means yes. Like the dog. Before my biz trip to Japan last sep, I told her that please don’t take in the dog. It will be very dirty & smelly in the house. She neglected my request & when I return home, the dog is in my house. Its not the dog I hate, it’s the amount of housework I gotta do every 2-3 days after work. I vacuumed; mop every corner of the house because of the dog’s hair. If all the hairs were to combined, it can be a fur ball for cats!!! 我真得很累. I felt very ‘dirty’ at home no matter how clean the house was. She even asked the dog to call me爸爸. Do you know how I feel?. 我忍.

As for babies, if you know her or you happen to see her with children, you will know what I mean. There are a few occasions where my friends baby were a month old or their birthdays. I brought to on 2 occasions. I would then carry my friends baby & play. She doesn’t wana even look at it. When I pass the baby to her, She doesn’t want & push it away. Most of my friends were puzzled by it. There was also once my colleague’s baby is in hospital. I brought my wife to visit her. She wont even wana see, touch or carry the baby. My colleague was puzzled too.

Her intention is to live the both of us + the dog for the rest of our lives. Everyday when I go home, I feel so bored &空虚. I would play my guitar, use the com, whereas she would watch TV, read story book & play with the fucking dog!!!

My feelings for her has already died.


It is sad when we hear such things. Then the only other thing I can say is to decide to move on. But please do not rush into a relationship with a PRC or a WL just to feel good or to have a child... Best of luck bro.

cablesnwires
10-02-2009, 11:45 AM
.....My feelings for her has already died.

You came here to seek advice, and this is my advice to you:

"You need to go see a marriage counselor, you owe it to yourself and you owe it to her as well."

If it still doesn't work out, then do what you think you think is appropriate. But don't get a divorce because of ur PRC gf.

Schenker
10-02-2009, 12:05 PM
Got to know this China girl and have a very good time with her for a while.
We call each other every day thought she is in China and my feeling grow alone the way. I had told her that I am married but she really dont mind and had lie to her family that i am not. I really wish to married her but i am married.
Can anyone assist me? Can I married her in China thought i had registered in Singapore? We do love each other very very much. :confused:

How come married man can fall in love so easily wanz. :rolleyes:

FL Lover
10-02-2009, 12:17 PM
My feelings for her has already died.

Bro, I understand how you feels. Have you tried to go for marriage counnseling first for both of u? It will improve yor marriage life and to understand what's marriage is all about.

Quite sad to hear that yor love for your wife had already died and since your wife is so determined to have her own life, then properly both of u are not meant to be together. A marriage will never be completed without any KIDS.

For those bros who are not married, you might not understand the purpose of having kids after marriage asap. Having kids help to improve your relationship and also helps to ensure that there will be a bonding between the couples. A DOG OR OTHER FXXKUP PETS WILL NEVER AND EVER REPLACE THE FEELING OF HAVING A KID AT HOME.....

You will ONLY understand the needs of having a kid after you get married. The pain of giving birth to a child is just a pychological effect that any girls have to overcome. Let me ask all bros. If your wife or gf is scare of painful feelings during sex, are you going to be deny of sex for the rest of your life?
Not true. There are surely other methods of overcoming the issue.


My advice to you. Go for the marriage counseling first before you made the final decision. Then see if it helps to reignite yor love for each other again and to accept the shortcomings for yourself as well as yor wife.

Story of the day: A marriage is not about two people staying together. Its about accepting each other shortcomings.

colins
10-02-2009, 12:24 PM
There was once I asked her about forming a family & having babies. She then told me she doesn’t like babies. She finds them irritating & nuisance. I thought she was just joking. So we got ROMed on 05. I was planning like having a house in 06 then have a child in 07.

Why did you want to marry her? Yes you love her but love her what?

leecs
10-02-2009, 01:17 PM
Why did you want to marry her? Yes you love her but love her what?

I dont know. I guess maybe its time to settle down, which im wrong.

Bro, I understand how you feels. Have you tried to go for marriage counnseling first for both of u? It will improve yor marriage life and to understand what's marriage is all about.

Nope. never thought of that. Maybe i should.

It is sad when we hear such things. Then the only other thing I can say is to decide to move on. But please do not rush into a relationship with a PRC or a WL just to feel good or to have a child... Best of luck bro.

I will not rush into a relaionship with my PRC if i really deicide to move on.

Soul_Reaper
10-02-2009, 01:40 PM
Never ever marry a PRC !!!
PRC mei meis are best for F*ck N Forget !!!
The moment you ROM you'll be screwed for the rest of your life !!!
Even if you divorce your wife eventually....... DUN EVER MARRY A PRC as the new wife or ever :mad:

KonKam
10-02-2009, 02:01 PM
dear TS, i cant advise much as tis is ur life, no matter how much advise me and other samster here give u, in the end u still have to make the decision urself, all i can help here is to show u a post that i saw in other forum and so i copy and paste here for u to take a look, hope it help u wat to do. :)

.................................................. ..................................................
.................................................. etc

When I passed the floral shop on the way, I ordered a bouquet for my
wife which was her favorite. The salesgirl asked me to write the
greeting words on the card. I smiled and wrote, I ll carry you out every
morning until we are old. "


Nice nice nice nice story!!....and i almost cry,the truth...
I just divorced last year Dec 17....
Not sure whether good or not but my life haven't been the same eversince.

Thx for the nice story..

mike1304k
10-02-2009, 02:02 PM
Actually bro,

Other than marriage counselling, which will be important, I think that perhaps some counselling on children may be needed to. I know that there are people who hate children. And there are some who love them too much, like the lady who just gave birth to 8 and has another 6 already.

In a way, feeling that it is time to settle down is the start of the reason why u want to marry. U must love her and also want her to consider marrying mah.

I know from the thread that she has given you a hard time since marriage. However, it could be a sign of some other underlying problems. Of course, local girls can be troublesome and this has been expressed in other threads. However, if you once loved the girl and remember how she was in the beginning, perhaps you may want to try and find that girl again. I knew a girl who had problems of connections and emotions. And her husband was actually considering turning to other forms of entertainment. However, she seemed so different from when we knew her before the marriage, we asked him to go for counselling with her and it came out that after marriage, she was actually so afraid that her husband would leave her, she projected her fears outwardly and this caused a further worsening of the situation. As a couple, you can do it togther.

On the flip side, my friend who married a stripper actually went for counselling himself. Because it was around the 6 month period when he started to have fears and doubts and it also made things difficult. He started to say that if she wanted to go back, she could. He did not mean it of course, but it was his fear showing. So he went to see a counsellor and together they sorted everything out. Now they are happy and have children together. They have been together for 6 years now and not a moment of unhappiness. So it happens to both guys and girls. Sometimes they feel something and they cannot understand or control and it makes things so much worse.

I saw a lady who had depression because her daughter was taking drugs. She could not help the daughter and ended up depressed. I saw her being taken out of the clinic in a wheel chair and immediately warded (I'm in pharmaceutical sales and not a patient hor). The doctor had to put her on constant drugs to keep her stable. We do not know what problems there are for different behaviours until we try. But if we had some feelings before and if we do still, then we owe it to her to try and help her.

leecs
10-02-2009, 02:28 PM
Never ever marry a PRC !!!
PRC mei meis are best for F*ck N Forget !!!
The moment you ROM you'll be screwed for the rest of your life !!!
Even if you divorce your wife eventually....... DUN EVER MARRY A PRC as the new wife or ever :mad:

Do you have any bad experiences????

DO_YOU_BJ
10-02-2009, 03:32 PM
Do you have any bad experiences????

My man.,.......where have you been man?????????????????????????????
Go read up the many many different threads in this section and read them until ur eyes pop out
So far, the tally for those known is 100000000000fucked up against 1 successful
These are the only known ones hor..........
Men being men, so many crashed & burnt in hell already disappeared from the face of the earth liao

leecs
10-02-2009, 03:51 PM
I agree with you on this. I've read from newspapers, SBF, etc.

kogi
10-02-2009, 04:58 PM
For those bros who are not married, you might not understand the purpose of having kids after marriage asap. Having kids help to improve your relationship and also helps to ensure that there will be a bonding between the couples. A DOG OR OTHER FXXKUP PETS WILL NEVER AND EVER REPLACE THE FEELING OF HAVING A KID AT HOME.....


Bro, you're shouting at the wrong audience. No man with balls in his pants will ever keep an dog and pamper it as if it were a substitute child. That is women's behavior. Only women hold delicate little dogs and fawn all over them like a mother fussing over a baby. Because it is the women who dont like children who behave like this.
Go back and reread bro leecs posting. His wife places the priorty of the dog above him and his parents. Feel damn sad for him.

DO_YOU_BJ
10-02-2009, 05:03 PM
She did not really put priority on the dog.
Never read things so literally.
This is a very lonely woman, she sought solace in the dog like he sought solace in the WL
Same idea different implication.
Have you ever tot that she may actually fear bearing kids?
There's a million and one possibilities but it all depends on both parties
The posts above clearly illustrates one party goin into a marraige and many things was taken for granted
That's Y i say, u dun marry outta love
Like the water in the cup theory.....
You swallow....cos you love her blah blah
One day, for everytime you swallow, one pebble drops into the cup of water.....sooner or later, water sure overflow..........looking away may not always be a bad thing

leecs
10-02-2009, 07:32 PM
She did not really put priority on the dog.
Never read things so literally.
This is a very lonely woman, she sought solace in the dog like he sought solace in the WL
Same idea different implication.
Have you ever tot that she may actually fear bearing kids?
There's a million and one possibilities but it all depends on both parties
The posts above clearly illustrates one party goin into a marraige and many things was taken for granted
That's Y i say, u dun marry outta love
Like the water in the cup theory.....
You swallow....cos you love her blah blah
One day, for everytime you swallow, one pebble drops into the cup of water.....sooner or later, water sure overflow..........looking away may not always be a bad thing

My wife is not a lonely woman. She has many activites. She loved to have pets since young. That’s why when the chance come, she’ll grab it.
She does not fear bearing kids. She hates them to the core, BIG TIME!!! Every time when I tried to talk about baby, she’ll shun away & change other topics.
You’re right. Shouldn’t marry outta love. I now regret marrying early. I don’t know when the water will overflow.

HCKing
10-02-2009, 07:42 PM
My wife is not a lonely woman. She has many activites. She loved to have pets since young. That’s why when the chance come, she’ll grab it.
She does not fear bearing kids. She hates them to the core, BIG TIME!!! Every time when I tried to talk about baby, she’ll shun away & change other topics.
You’re right. Shouldn’t marry outta love. I now regret marrying early. I don’t know when the water will overflow.

bro be strong and settle yr marriage problems nw 1st, dont b wishy washy when comes to r/s. since u already regretted so faster do somthing abt it and get it over with. u r still young can still start anew anytime but best if u can throw all yr problems off yr shoulders and start focusing on earning $$ nw than involving in r/s again as it will just be a pure waste of yr youth and energy. when yr career is stable and gt $$$ there will be lots of girls 4 u to choose.

be careful with yr decisions nw, make sure dont do things u will regret again in future.

BroRelax
10-02-2009, 07:55 PM
When I passed the floral shop on the way, I ordered a bouquet for my
wife which was her favorite. The salesgirl asked me to write the
greeting words on the card. I smiled and wrote, I ll carry you out every
morning until we are old. "

Very touching.

If this were to happen to me, i will do the same..

GreenHorny
11-02-2009, 12:17 AM
Whew, what a tough time u r gg thru, KC or responsibilities ah...
anyway, me and my frends always discuss that when men find a gal, they has short/medium/long term goals
short term: sex
medium term: KC/become ur gf/more intimate sex
long term: marriage, start a family
sad to say so, most PRCs gf are only able to satisfy short n medium term goals. short term: BBBJ, Cum on Face, AR, Tits Fuck, Just head to China saunas and you can get unlimited. medium term: KC, sure they know how to please guys, say things u want to listen, be submissive n stuff.
However, they can never satisfy ur long term goal, can they fight career hand in hand with you, adapt to Spore life, bring up your children with the correct values, be faithful to u forever. Pls ah, china gals r not those nice ladies u see in ancient drama who will bite their tongue to save their chasity, instead they see their pussies as the Omega Weapon, that can easily suck away ur monkey god iron rod k...
Deal with PRC for short term, deal with them for medium term if u r really skilled, n that they r not the level 99 sluts, Never deal with them for long term!!!
Wads Spore Male Population against China Female Population ratio??? dunno 1 to how many thousands yeah... so we shld be the rare n valuable ones right? Its time for us sporean males to live up to our value ah!!!

ekemono
11-02-2009, 07:00 AM
When dealing with PRC women one has to open his eyes big big and think hard.

My ex-wife, a PRC, had many years back drove her own mum out of the house and left her crying on the street and no where to go at that day.
And some months back when I could not provide for my kid, she threw him back to me and went holiday with her bf. So much for a mother's love...
My Viet wife is so disgusted with her action she stop talking to her and greeting her elder sis as a form of respect. My family are looking forward to sue her if this happens again.

Not stereotyping, just speaking from experience

FL Lover
11-02-2009, 09:39 AM
True loh.. Out of so many PRCs married into Singapore, only a minority of them managed to stay together for long. Its true. My friend who is working in the Immigration Dept can testify to that.

According to him, he had seen so many cases whereby the PRC married the SG guy and dumped him after a year into the marriage. The poor sg guy had to write to immigration to request to terminate the permit or PR after the divorce....

But there are also successful case. My neighbour, also a friend that I have known since childhood. He married a PRC too. But not those WLs or FLs that we know loh. His PRC is pretty, sweet looking type and has the look of a virtuous wife. True enough, his wife really takes care of his family n him well. Never did I hear him mention about $ issue or quarreling in the flat. He had a daughter with the PRC.


So in short, not say PRC is good. But the problem comes after we know the PRC who is worknig in WLs or FLs or KTVs, those already have a corrupted mindset. They had a diffierent purpose in life....

slider_72
11-02-2009, 10:21 AM
Bro leecs, I see your avatar has changed. The picture is sort of sailing close to the wind don't you think? I would think it borders on treason.

I think you have totally missed the point that bro DYBJ made in his last post. Your wife hating children may well be a manifestation of her fears. Liking pets and having numerous activities may also be a manifestation of her loneliness. Of course we are all guessing here as we do not know you or your wife, but this is some food for thought for you.

At this moment, the only advice I can offer to you is to keep a mini poodle. They don't shed so you will not have a house carpeted by dog fur. Makes the cleaning up easier. Being small, they poop lesser too and don't smell as bad.

In case anybody wonder why I talking about his dog or his wife's love for dogs, is this; everyone who contributed their opinions and advice to leecs have said more or less the same thing. However, it appears to me that the collective view of the bros here are not getting through to leecs. He is simply looking for an excuse to divorce his wife. He said that theirs is now a loveless marriage. His fingers are pointed at his wife for creating such a situation. If the things he said about her are true, surely a man would be pissed off with his wife but do these issues warrant a divorce? Like we all know, it takes two hands to clap. We do not know about leecs' short-comings and whether there are any issues his wife may have with him. For all we know, his wife may have caught him in bed with a WL in the past and hence the ice palace treatment.

Enough said. Bro leecs, the path before you is already painted out for you by the numerous good-meaning bros here. These advice were all based on information you provided so if the advice were not suitable because you withheld information from us, don't blame anyone. To me, they are as clear as the white edge lights and piano keys on a Cat 1 runway. Whether you wish to land on the runway or ditch into the sea, its all up to you.

ekemono
11-02-2009, 08:00 PM
Sometimes, the fear of having children may be influence by close friends and co-workers. For all sort of reason; be it commitment, money, they are worried they may end up in those bad cases they heard. And also sometimes, it may be due to the husband. Imagine if you have a rather womenizer husband and you simply can't see much future together, will you bore a child for him? Lets be fair to the ladies too.

** TS, I am not directing these at you, just speaking on the general term.**

cunt_search
12-02-2009, 02:28 AM
... He is simply looking for an excuse to divorce his wife. ... all know, it takes two hands to clap. We do not know about leecs' short-comings and whether there are any issues his wife may have with him. For all we know, his wife may have caught him in bed with a WL in the past and hence the ice palace treatment.

... its all up to you.

the marriage wow "in good health and in .... til death do us part"
when u swear that, r u thinking of finally screwing your wife legally finally or go through thick and thin with your chosen loved one???:(

leecs
12-02-2009, 08:42 AM
the marriage wow "in good health and in .... til death do us part"
when u swear that, r u thinking of finally screwing your wife legally finally or go through thick and thin with your chosen loved one???:(

I do remember making that vow, because I believe its time to settle down, have a house & child in a few years time. Struggle early then can relax a bit later in life. But I was wrong. It’s not the screwing that I want. She’s like changed to a different person & she’s holding the ‘sword’ in the house. I remember 1 thing she said very clearly. She said that if we were to divorce, the house is HERS. Ya, right

I can’t even cook instant noodles with a stove. She kept the metal thing holding the pot. I gotta use microwave oven to cook my instant noodles.

slider_72
12-02-2009, 10:04 AM
I do remember making that vow, because I believe its time to settle down, have a house & child in a few years time. Struggle early then can relax a bit later in life. But I was wrong. It’s not the screwing that I want. She’s like changed to a different person & she’s holding the ‘sword’ in the house. I remember 1 thing she said very clearly. She said that if we were to divorce, the house is HERS. Ya, right

I can’t even cook instant noodles with a stove. She kept the metal thing holding the pot. I gotta use microwave oven to cook my instant noodles.

Bro, this is going to be my last post on this topic because I am already lost for words.

You kept complaining about your wife's behaviour, how she changed after marriage, her refusal to visit your family, keeping a tight reign over the house, pampering the dog more than you, refusal to have children, demanding that the house is hers after divorce, etc.

Logically there must be a point in time when her behaviour changed. Remember, it was you who said she changed. That means before the change occurred, she was nice and loving, willing to accompany you everywhere, willing to consider having children?

Maybe some aspects remained constant before and after marriage, like her love for pets. For those attributes where she did not change after marriage, you already knew about it before marriage. You shouldn't be complaining about it now. You went in with your eyes open so you live with your decision.

For the other attributes where you said she changed after marriage, have you ever asked yourself what led to the change? Is she suffering from work stress, depression, mental health issues which led to the change? If so, remember your vows of in sickness and in health.

If the change is not due to these factors, there must be some external factors which caused it. Were you caught sleeping around, spend more time on online gaming than with her, neglected her, are you a mummy's boy where everything mummy said means the law to the exclusion of your wife's opinion?

Like I said, this is my last post on this topic because in my humble opinion, you are still seeking some justification for your decision in wanting to divorce your wife notwithstanding the numerous posts questioning your motive for this. Tackle the cause of the disease and not just focus on the symptoms. A change in your wife's behaviour is just the symptom of the problem. In this forum, only you will know the root cause.

Apart from your repeated complaints about your wife's change in her behaviour, have you also looked within yourself and see whether there were any changes in your behaviour? Some men are the perfect gentlemen when going after their wives but changed into an absolute slob after marriage.

NemoZai
12-02-2009, 08:11 PM
bro Slider.... i'd say this a thousand times... "i couldnt agree more with you." our lives are really what we make them out to be. if we are not careful, we will just hurt those we love. and it really sucks... haiz...

:(

FL Lover
13-02-2009, 02:17 PM
It is always hard to determine who is right n wrong esp when it comes to family relationships... It is even harder for us to tell u what you should do when we are the OUTSIDER..

TS, we have given u what we think and advises to what you should do. It is up to you to determine your fate. After all, we do not know the full side of the story and SERIOUSLY, we do not really wish to know cause THIS IS YOR FAMILY AFFAIRS. There are always 2 sides of the story.

We can only judge by what we understand n from our experiences. Seriously, an outsider will never n ever understand the conditions and cause to yor failure in relationship.

We can provide much advise but end of the day, pls make the most sensible decision. What you have decided might change yor life forever.

LOTS OF PPLE MAKE MISTAKES BECAUSE THEY PUT EMOTIONS INTO DECISION MAKING. Make sure both of u have tried all means of patching up the relationship before ending it.

Best of luck to you. Live life to the fullest but not regrets

DesSia
13-02-2009, 05:08 PM
Got to know this China girl and have a very good time with her for a while.
We call each other every day thought she is in China and my feeling grow alone the way. I had told her that I am married but she really dont mind and had lie to her family that i am not. I really wish to married her but i am married.
Can anyone assist me? Can I married her in China thought i had registered in Singapore? We do love each other very very much. :confused:

How to marry her when you are married in Singapore? Think about it again! You are not in the shoes before thus you do not understand. I had a china wife 3 years back!

If you insist, go to china and get married. No record will be found provided your woman betray you. They are not UN yet!

dadada
14-02-2009, 04:30 PM
Dear Bro,


If you insist, go to china and get married. No record will be found provided your woman betray you. They are not UN yet![/QUOTE]

As mention, you can take a step further, get yourself a new China ID and marry with the new ID.

You will have two identity. But some connection needed.

Regards

sushi88
15-02-2009, 12:41 AM
Dear Bro,

I only want to wish you well and this will be my last post on this .

Many bros have already given you many valuable advices. Its up to you to decide wat you want. At the end of the day, it is your life, and only you can decide.....whichever decision you take as long as you know its consequences and you feel you are happy, then go along with it.

Marriages are seldom (and usually NEVER ) made in Heaven.

Finally, I wish you well and happy.

LED...
15-02-2009, 08:54 PM
The fact that you still bother to vent your anger and frustration here means that you still have hope (maybe very minor) in this relationship.....Cool your head, take a few days break to consider your next action. I believe your courtship take more than a few days, so it is only fair that you should give yourself and your wife a breather and chance......Even if you are the only one initiating the opportunity, at least you can face yourself without regret and shame in the future......consider having a nice non-confrontation talk with her, look for counselling, usually a 3rd party will allow both of you to see the root and accept the reality in where is the problem..........You as the man, be a gentlemen, initiate the first step if you still have the slightest unsure about leaving her.........You make the call, You make the change......

leecs
15-02-2009, 11:11 PM
Thanks for all your positive & negative comments. I will seriously consider what's my next step.

Thank you.... :)

colins
15-02-2009, 11:15 PM
Share your bloody story about your PRC la, leecs. The more you wanna keep it secret, the more I think you are escaping from our judgements.

cablesnwires
16-02-2009, 12:16 AM
Share your bloody story about your PRC la, leecs. The more you wanna keep it secret, the more I think you are escaping from our judgements.

We can only do so much bro Colins, we can only do so much.

slider_72
16-02-2009, 10:24 AM
Share your bloody story about your PRC la, leecs. The more you wanna keep it secret, the more I think you are escaping from our judgements.

Bro, what is there for him to share? The PRC girl is merely an excuse for him to divorce his wife.

Mrxhub
16-02-2009, 11:39 AM
Thanks for all your positive & negative comments. I will seriously consider what's my next step.

Thank you.... :)

Bro, we are not pouring cold shoulder @ u, Many guys have misunderstand of many factors, it depend on the enviroment you meet those babes...Like example, those PRC who works in KTV/GL/SPA, don pin high hope on them, bcos of sex and beauty....Guys are like flying bees to grab the honey.... But if you meet real student/worker, they are very self protected, "Marriage/Serious commitment is in their minds".

So don mention kenna CONNED/KC, it takes two hands to clap....it you yourself who wish to get alittle more out of the honey, once you lay on it, all yr legs are struck onto the honeys....so don blame any1, JUST PAY AND FUK OFF.

DO_YOU_BJ
16-02-2009, 05:12 PM
Bro, we are not pouring cold shoulder @ u, Many guys have misunderstand of many factors, it depend on the enviroment you meet those babes...Like example, those PRC who works in KTV/GL/SPA, don pin high hope on them, bcos of sex and beauty....Guys are like flying bees to grab the honey.... But if you meet real student/worker, they are very self protected, "Marriage/Serious commitment is in their minds".

So don mention kenna CONNED/KC, it takes two hands to clap....it you yourself who wish to get alittle more out of the honey, once you lay on it, all yr legs are struck onto the honeys....so don blame any1, JUST PAY AND FUK OFF.

Bro Mrxhub, i think you need to be corrected.
This forum is all about commercial sex, not a dating forum.
Alas, all those who post in this section are:
Matters of the Heart. Has a Commercial Fuck turned into a torrid Love Affair which has turned your life upside down? Fear not. We have experts here who can help you through your roller coaster ride. Tell us your story and we'll do our best to help.

So, the normal boy/gal/partorlogy does not apply........
So pls be clear, what one can do or marry in the real world does not apply here.
Over here, is where the confused come in to seek help to steer their eyes back to the real world....cos they fail to see, that they arent in the real world but only in fantasy land!

sexfrenzy
16-02-2009, 05:17 PM
My uncle is currently in a similar dilemma. Got a wife with 2 kids. Now he got himself a PRC wife (married in China) and just got a baby. The entire family is in a mess. When I say entire family, i mean the whole hierarchy not just his own family.

TS, before you do anything rash, consider the repercussions. Life is neber about yourself and your sexual needs.

colins
16-02-2009, 08:44 PM
Bro, what is there for him to share? The PRC girl is merely an excuse for him to divorce his wife.

I think the divorce is what he is looking at but all the justifications are just excuses for the divorce to take place. The PRC girl is the real reason, divorce is the means to be with her and the justification that the wife is the cause of EVERYTHING IS the excuse.

HCKing
16-02-2009, 08:57 PM
I think the divorce is what he is looking at but all the justifications are just excuses for the divorce to take place. The PRC girl is the real reason, divorce is the means to be with her and the justification that the wife is the cause of EVERYTHING IS the excuse.

nt surprising, given the fact the new is always more thrilling and exciting than the old. but in time to come the new will become old so the cycle continues

Gaofar
13-03-2009, 11:36 AM
You better watch your mouth for calling other people's name when you are no better off! Either you are low in IQ or EQ or whatever Q's there might be, or you are simply rude and being a menace! :mad:

cablesnwires
13-03-2009, 02:04 PM
You better watch your mouth for calling other people's name when you are no better off! Either you are low in IQ or EQ or whatever Q's there might be, or you are simply rude and being a menace! :mad:

Why get angry over this piece of shit? Harness this energy to find a SYT to bonk. :D

mike1304k
13-03-2009, 02:21 PM
[QUOTE]
Your uncle is a real stupid ass - why spoil his future on a roadside dirty chicken (prostitute)
Those beauties at Lor 6 /8 are nothing more than roadside prostitutes

Bro,

Please have a bit of decency lah hor... Even uncle also can kenna con. Some are players, but many are just guys who want to find a change in their boring lives and got caught in a situation they could not get out off. And pity them for what they have lost lah. Not onlyin terms of money but also in other ways.

For one who is not worldwise or street wise, any nice girl who winks at you will be a turn on. When she calls you lau gong and makes you feel shiok shiok, your brain turns mushy while your dick turns hard. Blood goes to the wrong place. So beauty or not... protitutes or not... please do not comment on people, especially people older than us as stupid. And please do not comment on all PRC as roadside pros, because some of them will be so high class that they will hit you so hard with a sledgehammer that you want to siam also cannot. Their skills are so good that even a pro will have difficulty avoiding them. Ask the senior brothers here. They will tell you, the one who walks into a battle full of courage and bravado will most probably be the first one to fall. They are too full of themselves.

Panamera
13-03-2009, 02:42 PM
[QUOTE=jchongking;3553354]

Bro,

Please have a bit of decency lah hor... Even uncle also can kenna con. Some are players, but many are just guys who want to find a change in their boring lives and got caught in a situation they could not get out off. And pity them for what they have lost lah. Not onlyin terms of money but also in other ways.

For one who is not worldwise or street wise, any nice girl who winks at you will be a turn on. When she calls you lau gong and makes you feel shiok shiok, your brain turns mushy while your dick turns hard. Blood goes to the wrong place. So beauty or not... protitutes or not... please do not comment on people, especially people older than us as stupid. And please do not comment on all PRC as roadside pros, because some of them will be so high class that they will hit you so hard with a sledgehammer that you want to siam also cannot. Their skills are so good that even a pro will have difficulty avoiding them. Ask the senior brothers here. They will tell you, the one who walks into a battle full of courage and bravado will most probably be the first one to fall. They are too full of themselves.


Bro, dont bother with that Merlion Man la...You got to understand, he is jealous la, because after giving out so many key chains and HPs to Mei Mei in Zhuhai, all he got were 2nd hand Shoes!!!:D

etct88
14-03-2009, 02:34 AM
[QUOTE=mike1304k;3555281]


Bro, dont bother with that Merlion Man la...You got to understand, he is jealous la, because after giving out so many key chains and HPs to Mei Mei in Zhuhai, all he got were 2nd hand Shoes!!!:D

...and smelly one too.... 'smelly shoes'....:eek::eek:

This Legend went thru' it, exactly the same with some roadside 6/8 smelly shoes and now uses this opportunty to vent his frustrations..... :rolleyes:

ManInCheong
14-03-2009, 02:38 AM
Got to know this China girl and have a very good time with her for a while.
We call each other every day thought she is in China and my feeling grow alone the way. I had told her that I am married but she really dont mind and had lie to her family that i am not. I really wish to married her but i am married.
Can anyone assist me? Can I married her in China thought i had registered in Singapore? We do love each other very very much. :confused:

Get your wife to get a china citizenship. Finish story.

Damn bro...If you're married and you cheong until you wanna marry the FL, please dun tell ppl ur a Samster. If you're a real man, cheong is cheong and wife is always wife. Dun ever bring your outside supper home. You're a disgrace to men.

shanshen
14-03-2009, 01:43 PM
Bro Leecs,

after reading throgh the pages today, let me sumarize it.
1) yr feelings for your wife had died due to:
a) she is abusive and talk down to you
b) she does not want to have a baby
c) maybe her love for you is no longer there (third parties involvement?)


2) during the quarrel on making babies, she initiated divorce 3 times liao

listen carefully..asked your self if you still love your wife..
if the answer is no..than it is easy to solve.

sit down and talk to her
tell her again that you really want to have baby n if she starts to be abusive again and initiated divorce..

than u tell her: Fine, lets divorce...but you want her to take the initiative and tell her, you go and get your lawyer to prepare the divorce letter and bring it for you to sign..let her do it.
do not follow her to the lawyer office. ask her to bring it to you.

this will tell if she is serious in divorcing. if she do it, thats means she no longer love you...
than go for it as u already have no feelings for her and this is not the life you want to live.

if u continue to give in, yr life will screwed and will get worse when u are older..since u are still young, do a clean break and live the life you want..
find another girl who is wiling to bear you a child.

Remember, wife is just only a title bestow upon a couple during marriage. What is a title? nothing really unlike your father or mother whose blood runs in your vein.. when u divorce her and marry another girl, she get the title "wife"..so the wife title is disposable

all you need to do is to brace yourself up and you are prepared to choose this path to accept the divorce..

you will be much happier i believe, as living together with a wife when both parties are no longer in the synchronise frequency is painful..

beside, having no kids made things easier for the divorce.

many loveless couples stay together for the sake of their kids due to obligation and their love for their children..

since you are only in your early thirties and without kids, build your own world and dont let one women destroy it.

fanaticd
20-03-2009, 02:42 AM
i also want! however, considering so much factors, better to forget it. :D
need to note that there are so many beauties in china and you will marry one, divorce tomorrow and marry again.

also, things will turn upside down due to 1 person. no point also. Well, Love is blind. blinded by the china girl and blind to see what is happening

jon2000sg
07-06-2009, 03:52 AM
never ever marry a prc !!!
Prc mei meis are best for f*ck n forget !!!
the moment you rom you'll be screwed for the rest of your life !!!
Even if you divorce your wife eventually....... dun ever marry a prc as the new wife or ever :mad:

very true !!!

NewandLost
08-06-2009, 02:24 AM
My PRC stays in Fuzhou, Fujian. I know when i say this, im really gonna get f**ked by you mates, but she works in a KTV. I know you guys will say why!!! there are $$$ suckers & not out for love or something. She has no choice but to work in KTV.

I've actually expressed my feelings for her & she knows it. But she says she doesnt want to break up a family. I told her this is the route im choosing, its not her fault. (I know people will sure blame her). She replied she doesnt wana be a 3rd party. So i replied if im single, would she wana be with me. She did not reply. so i replied its ok. Then she replied shes happy to know me.

Apart from the child & wedding dinner issue, I cant stand her sarcastic ways of talking to me when we are arguing. What she says will hurt me, like stabbing a dagger in your heart. Im sure you guys know how it feels. Its been going on for many years & i told her not to but she continues. Once she was asking me am i getting bored of the life now, which is only the 2 of us & that f**king dog, i said yes. Then she said why not we have a divorce & dont waste each others time. :mad:

She doesnt like to go to my parents home for dinner, or any gatherings from my family side. Everytime my relatives will ask me where is my wife. I dont know how to answer. whereas when her mum asks us to go, I steady, i go. During CNY, i asked her whether she wants to go back msia to my grandpa's home, she told me nobodys looking after the dog!! WTF! when we go to hong kong last nov, she can put the dog to the previous owner for a week, whereas going back is only 4 days.

Braddah, you are crazy. Fujianese are like the "n*ggers" of Asia and China.

NewandLost
08-06-2009, 02:20 PM
braddah, i urge you to press the quit button. fujianese even in the PRC have the worst reputations from what i heard. in vancouver and streets of nyc, the old cantonese guard openly discriminate against fujianese migrants due to the fujianese practices of not pay rent, steal from workplace, lying, deception. and violence. braddah, she will take you to the cleaners and rape your bank account dry. not only will these people lie thorugh their teeth they have no consience about staright up f ing you over. its an act from day one braddah. wake up braddah.

bunnyrabbit
10-06-2009, 02:17 AM
bro leecs..
after all the discussion in here..i guess i only have one conclusion for you..

my advise is....faster go and do all the necessary arrangements and marry your sweetheart in china!! :D

then maybe after that you can come in the forum again to put up another thread call..

"Wanted to divorce a China girl but i am stuck!" :p

leecs
10-06-2009, 09:38 AM
Im long gone with the PRC girl... Im on to Vietnam girls now. :D:D