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mike1304k
18-02-2009, 02:26 PM
Dear Brothers, please do not flame me if you do not agree as this is just my personal reading. However, I have been reading with relative interest the fact that the global economy is in the lowest we have yet to see for many decades. The worst is yet to come, companies are closing down and people are either getting retrenched or pay cuts.

Now, if I were a WL or Fl, I will be rather distressed as the first thing that gets cut off anyone's budget is entertainment. So that means clients will get fewer and or "gifts" and even chance of KC trapping someone will get less. So what is the wisest thing to do? Trap someone to marrying them or at least "looking after" them. In short, it will ensure at least minor amounts of money coming in and perhaps a change of passport colour instead of having to go home. So my reading is that most WL and Fl will now try to hook someone to marry or at least become their care-takers. They will try not to fleece too much from the goose yet.

To a normal guy, this may be a good thing to, in the sense that it may help him to help get the lady off the industry. If she marries him and he provides for her, maybe she will stay out of it. But what happens if he is unable to support her, loses his job or something like that. Does she go back to her old industry or use the divorce method to get alimony?

So guys out there, you gotta be careful. I am not saying that all WL and FL will never go straight, but the question is are you lucky enough to find one who really wants to go straight. I would ask you all to be extra careful and vigilant as I would foresee that the smarter ones will use this technique to reach their goals rather than to try to find more daddy's to make up for the losses.

What do you guys think?

GreenHorny
18-02-2009, 03:09 PM
It is a fact that world economy is plunging downhill, many jobs are lost. In fact in the Guangdong region, tons of factories closed down. With jobs cut, many of these factory workers may be so helpless. Some of them, who decide not to betray their body, will return to rural areas, while most others will look for an easy way out, eg be a WL. With more and more gals become WL, supply for WL increase exponentially. As for us, ie customers, be it bosses in china or brudders like us in Spore, we are in some way affected by the downturn. Wallets might be tighter now. So we might reduce commercial sex or look for cheaper alternatives. With supply gg up, demand gg down ====> price goes down. If you guys follow up on the international thread, many ktvs in china, GZ region are giving out great disounts. And I heard from some gals over there that competition is tensed as many gals now 下海. And trust me, in order to win, there are willing to offer better service more GFEs. Commercial sex market, like any markets now, CASH IS KING.
As for more and more gals now turning to find shores, hmmm...maybe, but that is too early to say. But one good news, is that, for us,we seems to have more choice.

Harvest
18-02-2009, 04:12 PM
Now, if I were a WL or Fl, I will be rather distressed as the first thing that gets cut off anyone's budget is entertainment. So that means clients will get fewer and or "gifts" and even chance of KC trapping someone will get less. So what is the wisest thing to do? Trap someone to marrying them or at least "looking after" them. In short, it will ensure at least minor amounts of money coming in and perhaps a change of passport colour instead of having to go home. So my reading is that most WL and Fl will now try to hook someone to marry or at least become their care-takers. They will try not to fleece too much from the goose yet.
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Actually this is the ultimate "trump card" that WLs have been deploying throughout the ages. Good times or bad times, it sure beats the hell to be looked after than to bonk strangers for a living. The maxim is always the same: "Love" flows where the money goes!

sexfrenzy
18-02-2009, 06:33 PM
Well I was just reading about a Yahoo article (http://sg.news.yahoo.com/afp/20090217/tap-finance-economy-china-mistress-accid-8d4ea94.html) of a Chinese tycoon sizing down his mistress entourage when I chance upon this thread.

Well KC traps are always there and if u are not rational at tat moment of time, even the most experience cheongster will get entrap. As brudder GreenHorny mentioned, with the economy in this state, competition is going to bring out value.. and that's where we go for the kill :)

cablesnwires
18-02-2009, 06:56 PM
Guys, I am not trying to slam you guys, but your posts are in dangerous grounds. Before this economic crisis, we already had guys being felt cheated. Your posts now bring hope to those who are new at this, and perhaps for a while the guys feel they are at the top of the world. However, when the economy turns for the better, guess what then? More heartbroken stories.

I shudder to think about that... :(

So I hope you guys refrain from giving more false hopes.

aczeta
18-02-2009, 07:07 PM
Ya... all around companies are not doing well.

That's why I relocated back to SG

yobe
18-02-2009, 07:56 PM
Guys, I am not trying to slam you guys, but your posts are in dangerous grounds. Before this economic crisis, we already had guys being felt cheated. Your posts now bring hope to those who are new at this, and perhaps for a while the guys feel they are at the top of the world. However, when the economy turns for the better, guess what then? More heartbroken stories.

I shudder to think about that... :(

So I hope you guys refrain from giving more false hopes.

Sorry bro, reality of life goes on whether or not TS or anyone else voice out these sentiments. It will happen. Anyone who knowingly enter into relationships with ex-WL, ex-KTV hostesses, ex-mistress should be wise enough to know it is all about the money. Just like some people like to eat in high class restaurant for quality of food and service, there are people who are willing to pay for super GFE. For those blur kings who think WLs really love them more than money, let Darwinian selection happen.
If your concern is that ex WLs pretend to be good girls and then find non cheongster husbands, what will happen willl happen. Sorry but that is off topic and unrelated to "Commercial Fuck turned into a torrid Love Affair".

HCKing
18-02-2009, 08:15 PM
i hv started this poll nt long ago, and frm the poll stats i think the current lousy economy actually helps to bring alot of guys back to their senses by being more cautious with their spending, esp on commercial sex. during gd times one can overshot the chiong budget and assure himself he can easily recover them back the following mths but nt this time. also, given the current worsening market condition, earning the bread will be the no.1 priority in most guys mind. no one will hv so much spare time and $$$ to 'help' WL all will be bz helping themselves. nw its $$$ come 1st, other extravegance activities will become secondary liao.

http://www.sammyboyforum.com/polls/111810-bad-economy-lai-liao-how-you-release-your-sexual-needs.html

mike1304k
18-02-2009, 08:59 PM
My intention was to say "Be extra careful" as the WL and FL will more than likely use more desperate measures to ensure they catch someone. And to these guys, they may seem like the ladies are trying to go straight. Bad times means desperate measures mah.

Last time economy good, we not happy with boss, we quit. Now we keep quiet, grit our teeth, pretend to smile so that we can stay employed. So same theory lor.

HCKing
18-02-2009, 10:11 PM
My intention was to say "Be extra careful" as the WL and FL will more than likely use more desperate measures to ensure they catch someone. And to these guys, they may seem like the ladies are trying to go straight. Bad times means desperate measures mah.

Last time economy good, we not happy with boss, we quit. Now we keep quiet, grit our teeth, pretend to smile so that we can stay employed. So same theory lor.

hehehe thanks 4 the warning bro. PRC WL and FL are known to have 1001 tricks to milk sg guys $$ all along, irregardless of gd or bad time.trying to go straight is one of those, there r others like approaching many guys 4 'help' at the same time, using different names somemore to cover identity, 放长线钓大鱼 KC trick, 以退为进 trick, intro ' sister ' to guy to 'help' them both and nt to mention all the FOC shopping purchases etc. guys who choose to enter the KC game most often will get burnt in the end, only difference is the severity of damage. but i understand what ya mean, during bad times they might resort to even more merciless trick than b4 to squeeze dry the guys. better to be safe than sorry.:eek:

fee3fow
18-02-2009, 11:55 PM
放长线钓大鱼 KC trick:
Maybe it is time for them to reel in the lines during this recession period. Alll brothers pls be careful hor :D

cablesnwires
19-02-2009, 09:29 AM
Sorry bro, reality of life goes on whether or not TS or anyone else voice out these sentiments. It will happen. Anyone who knowingly enter into relationships with ex-WL, ex-KTV hostesses, ex-mistress should be wise enough to know it is all about the money. Just like some people like to eat in high class restaurant for quality of food and service, there are people who are willing to pay for super GFE. For those blur kings who think WLs really love them more than money, let Darwinian selection happen.
If your concern is that ex WLs pretend to be good girls and then find non cheongster husbands, what will happen willl happen. Sorry but that is off topic and unrelated to "Commercial Fuck turned into a torrid Love Affair".

Bro yobe, I agree with you. There will be people, regardless of how the economy is doing, who offer themselves to be cai taos, and feel cheated when the relationship does not work out to their expectation.

To bro GreenHorny, I beg to differ your views on the more supply and less demand theory. Supply is always driven by demand, and not vice versa. It makes no economical sense to keep an entourage of supplies even when the demand is waning. Ultimately when the going gets tough, the tough gets going. The rest would simply go back, bide their times, until the economy improves.

mike1304k
19-02-2009, 09:59 AM
There is an endless supply from the PRC and that is one reason why they cannot afford to go back. Imagine, in the land of 4.5mio, they will already have to fight with tooth and claw for business or to milk cai tao's, in the land of 1billion, they will have no where to stand. So they will use all means to stay and to milk from here. Just hope that they don put melanin or melamine into our milk supply man... Already economy bad liao... kenna poison sure better to dead man. Please brothers do be extra careful hor.

slider_72
19-02-2009, 10:13 AM
Just hope that they don put melanin or melamine into our milk supply man

Like that then better stop sucking PRC women's boobies.

pig40
19-02-2009, 10:18 AM
ya lor, envy those ah peks & uncles who sit around at Geylang coffeeshops waiting for prc women to join their table for "wah le che tng" or have a free meal. but the local deep fried food they do not fancy. on the other end, some silver hair group are taking security courses at paya lebar for that $30 per 12-hr shift job, 2 days off in a month. some wl would want the man to escort her to ppc to remit $ to prc. then pester that old man to buy a gold necklace for her.

GreenHorny
19-02-2009, 10:28 AM
To bro GreenHorny, I beg to differ your views on the more supply and less demand theory. Supply is always driven by demand, and not vice versa. It makes no economical sense to keep an entourage of supplies even when the demand is waning. Ultimately when the going gets tough, the tough gets going. The rest would simply go back, bide their times, until the economy improves.

Agree with you that supply is driven by demand. However I think that will be in the later stage when the PRC WLs realise that either there is a drop in customers or customers are tightening their belts. Upon realising that, they may then consider heading back to their rural hometowns. In the initial stage, when the factory workers are retrenched, they have only 2 options, one to go back hometown, get married, suffer poverty, and the vicious cycle continues, or join their already 下海 peers to earn quick money.
N no matter how bad times are, a WL still earn easier and faster money than a farmer, provided they are willing.
Even if she 1 week only manage to do an overnight, its 500 rmb. consider the hourly wage.
And in farming, maybe 500 rmb for a year, and it depends on harvest, natural disasters.

HCKing
19-02-2009, 10:30 AM
Bro yobe, I agree with you. There will be people, regardless of how the economy is doing, who offer themselves to be cai taos, and feel cheated when the relationship does not work out to their expectation.

To bro GreenHorny, I beg to differ your views on the more supply and less demand theory. Supply is always driven by demand, and not vice versa. It makes no economical sense to keep an entourage of supplies even when the demand is waning. Ultimately when the going gets tough, the tough gets going. The rest would simply go back, bide their times, until the economy improves.

bro wat bro GreenHorny implies is when there r more supply than demand, prices will decrease. its a buyer market nw which means we can expect to bonk a pretty SYT and still have some change left for supper and drink. competition in the WL industry will heat up, benefiting the customers as WL will be forced to lower price, give better services and GFE as well as come out with more promotional tricks ( tarma discount, allow additional shot etc. ) to get business. those stubborn ones who still think their pussies made of gold, never bothers to improve on service level will automatically be out of business soon.

the increase in supplies will nt be a problem 4 them as they r nt like forks or spoons where u buy once and use 4 life. guys always go 4 new pussies so no matter hw as long as the quality is there and price is in line with the latest 'market price' or best, lower the WL can still find business here and survive.

mike1304k
19-02-2009, 10:42 AM
ya lor, envy those ah peks & uncles who sit around at Geylang coffeeshops waiting for prc women to join their table for "wah le che tng" or have a free meal. but the local deep fried food they do not fancy. on the other end, some silver hair group are taking security courses at paya lebar for that $30 per 12-hr shift job, 2 days off in a month. some wl would want the man to escort her to ppc to remit $ to prc. then pester that old man to buy a gold necklace for her.


Sorry man bro, I don envy them. In fact I really pity them. I have an uncle who is in his 50's and not married. No education, no real job, no one really wants to be by his side. What choice does he have? Look for PRC or VN gals and pay. I am always afraid that one day he would be KC'd and then give all his savings away to the girl. It is a vicious cycle lah. We try to find GFE and "love" the easy way and stand a chance of getting caught. Like big bro DYBJ always says, success stories... very very few.... stories of losses... uncountable.... Guess we gotta realize that sex and love should not mix lor. Unless it is sex wif wife or GF, then perhaps love can come in.

cablesnwires
19-02-2009, 11:27 AM
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the increase in supplies will nt be a problem 4 them as they r nt like forks or spoons where u buy once and use 4 life. guys always go 4 new pussies so no matter hw as long as the quality is there and price is in line with the latest 'market price' or best, lower the WL can still find business here and survive.

Well, the best ones will not have much impact to their businesses and that leaves the no good ones around. What can they do in times of economic slowdown? Do they change to fit in? I think this is highly unlikely, since they would have changed when the going is good. And if they can't survive, what do they do? Like I said, they will most probably go back to their hometown, bide their times and comes out when the going improves.

Having said this, YMMV. :)

Cheers, and may the service levels of the WLs and FLs be up a notch in times of economic slowdown... :D

HCKing
19-02-2009, 12:09 PM
Having said this, YMMV. :)


Errr, wats YMMV bro?:confused:

cablesnwires
19-02-2009, 02:46 PM
Errr, wats YMMV bro?:confused:

YMMV = Your mileage may vary.... means that you your opinion might be different from mine....

Yahoo.com
19-02-2009, 03:02 PM
With supply gg up, demand gg down ====> price goes down.
This theory will prevail ;)

DO_YOU_BJ
19-02-2009, 03:50 PM
The theory of Economics does not really apply in the world of FL or WL.
This is a non personal point of view of mine, also, something i guess i can only use myself as a gauge.......so, just to repeat, using myself as comparison and not targeted at anyone in particular.

When does KC come into play?
Imagine this, guy got a NORMAL working GF or wife.....think he'll go for FL/WL.....answer....YES!
Guy just GF and now wife....will he find FL/WL??????...........answer.....No
Now guy already married wife for a couple of years....will he go find WL/FL??????.....Answer.....YES!!!!!
Guy under lotsa stress, be it marital or work.......where does he find release?????........FL or WL
Guy may be successful in life but feels empty.......will he find a WL/FL to fill his void?????.........answer.....YES
Guy may be complete externally...but internally he feels empty till he meets a FL/WL that seems to make him feel complete.....NO WAY IS HE GONNA LET GO but GRASP ON TO HER WIF HIS DEAR LIFE!!!!!!!!!!....possibility??????......Happening everywhere!
Guy has fetishes but dares not apply to his wife....scared wife will get upset or just outta respect for her.....he finds a FL/WL and she allows him to fulfill all his fetishes on her, plus they can click like nobody's business.......he feels she's just like his wife and more..........HE NOW THINKS OF DIVORCE!!!!!!!!!!

I have been thru this vicious cycle before.
I love my wives till i met this woman but this later.
Yes it's already in the past but it will always remain a very very memorable experience in my life and i will always use wat i learnt from this episode as my rules, my regulations & Sutra in this game.

Am i a player????? Oh yes, a darn good one if i may add
How many kills have i had???? Well, lets just say than in 52wks in a year, i'm close to 52.
Am i an old time VERY seasoned cheongster?????? Oh yes, if there was a senior citizens club to old time cheongsters, i mean seasoned hor, not old grey haired man and FYI me not 40 even hahahaha, I'll sure be in the supreme council hahaha

All these while, I pride myself as a FULL FLEDGED PREDATOR, no heart, no emotions, when i looks at these WLs/LFs, I dont see human, I see lambs.....helpless lambs awaiting me to devour them......did i enjoy it...oh yes...you bet......you have no idea how i toy wif their minds till some have even gone back and have never heard of their return to our shores.
Let me give you an example.........

Years ago, I had a gal from 3rd floor...TIAN DI WU XIAN or Club Infinitude.......i knew she liked me for watever reason, heck i dun care....so i played along.......one night, me act drunk, hugged her n whispered that i madly have a crush on her...n that was the prelude to her nightmare........that nite, lied that i cant drive, too drunk and ask her to let me go recoup at her place, and of course she allowed. Needless to say, we FUCKED(NOTE I NEVER USE MAKE LOVE)
As time ensued, i'd call her when she was sleeping in the afternoon and just pop over to her place during lunch to get a BJ or a fuck job.
All these while, she knew who i was so i guess she's filled wif 希望n mind you, i never paid a cent!
I knew she hated to give BJs...so i'd force her to lie on the side of the pillow and face fuck her!
For one to hate BJs, for sure they'll hate CIM......next i imposed that she MUST accept CIM, I threw alot of tantrums and she finally submitted!
Next, i said all my woman swallow, why you spit? Commercial sex ah???????? This dragged on for almost a few days and from that day on, she swallowed every drop!
Lastly, i said i wanna do anal....she refused bigtime........i insisted......she still refused........but then again, she gave in.
This entire hooha went on for almost 2 weeks...............till i got tired of her.......
One nite, i went over to her place after a session at LV, went in to her room, drop my pants and just told her to PLEASE UR MAN, she did....then as i was penetrating her, telling that's she's gonna cum, i stood up, walked to the window, light a cigarette and started smoking.......she was like shocked...............and starting saying, LAO GONG, is everything ok, did i do something wrong.....i just replied....." NO MOOD LIAO!" Wore my pants and left
In the carpark, sent her a FUCK OFF sms and that ITS OVER
As i was driving home, she called and cried and cried, i just listened till i reached my car porch, then finally i spoke: Finish already? I wanna shower n sleep liao...then hung up
This ensued for 2 days then on the 3rd day, i was drunk again and called her.....she was at home.
I was a Lido Palace. Said i really miss her and wanted her...without hesitation, she asked me to go to her place. So i went. Over there, she cried and said she really loved me blah blah, of cos, everything i said i felt for her from the start was a lie.
Ended up fucking again. After I came, i stood up, cleaned up, wore my clothes and left. No bye bye, no looking back just left...all I remember was that i heard sobbing on my way out!

You can call me a bastard for wat i did to this 1 WL, but there're tons more, but remember, you heard it from my side, the guys side, you've yet to hear from their side!

fee3fow
19-02-2009, 04:00 PM
Hmm i remember seeing it somewhere in this forum

Good WL marry good man
Good man cheated by bad WL
Bad WL meet bad man and they cheat each other
Bad man cheat good WL

It is all a cycle like many things in life. No right and wrong involve :D

DO_YOU_BJ
19-02-2009, 04:19 PM
Due to some personal reason, my marriage was on the rocks...i, being a regular to nite spots, began to punch card...meaning there almost everynite, that includes Saturday & Sundays to escape from home as much as i can.
One fateful day, i met this gal, and all hell broke loose
This was when i was ay a super low in my life, cos to me, wife and family is ones core, and when this is in jeopardy, the entire structure was unstable thus i sought solitude in KTVs
This one WL/FL came along, clicked so well, so sweet, so gentle, so lovy dovy, so caring, so caring, "SO DIFFERENT" from all the rest i've ever met. Sounds all too familiar ya
Well, thing went on, spent almost days and nites wif her...invested all emotions watsoever wif so, but money, man, this department me most awake one, so didnt really invest alot wif her.
So time came she went home, ah.....so i tot, finally, away from the WL scene so i flew up many many times.......2 weeks in a month!
After everything ended, wif a bang mind you, it left a very deep scar in me and changed my life forever.
I lost my very best closest buddies, many good friends but me being me, i fought my 3wks of near death experiences and hellish days and made a comeback.
Today, i'm still cheonging but mind you, during my time wif her, i left the nite scene to prove my resolve to only her. I ignored my family, my darling daughter etc etc
When i was going thru my 3 weeks in hell, they were all by my side, my daughter would hug me when i cried, over the dinner table, the coffee table, on my bed, in my study, my mom, my wives all would not let me be alone during this entire period.
I went for spiritual guidance and turned to Mother Mary for strength and enlightenment, guess that payed off and now, to be darn honest, i am recovered but i still have the very rare occasions that i see a vision of her in my sleep or when i close my eyes.....but it doesnt cos me to have the gitters......that's a good sign i guess

I finally understood why i had to go through this, this entire VERY PAINFUL episode of my life, always a winner but this fall, was beyond comprehension. The loss was beyond my wildest dreams, loss of kakis, those that go thru thick and thin with you, friends, not important cos they come and go but worst, loss of myself old goodself...this episode has left a scar in me soooooo deep, that not only my immediate close ones can see, but even myself knows, i'm never the same old crazy dude i once were!
The reason, 逃避. Instead of fixing my probs, i ran and found solace somewhere else and planted my roots there........even knowing from the start that the soil was toxic, i decided to go on with it....i paid the ultimate price.
Money can earn & throw, but your very own self, that one, can never ever be the same again....so to me, i died and now am reborn!

In this period of major downturns, expect many many more to walk the path i've walked, an escape, a way out of their worries and stress, a way of feeling wanted and a way of living the impossible during such a climate.......oh yes, this is a period of KC.......and mark my words bro, i've seen a few already so far and i cant imagine those that i cant see or hear about.

DO_YOU_BJ
19-02-2009, 04:27 PM
Hmm i remember seeing it somewhere in this forum

Good WL marry good man
Good man cheated by bad WL
Bad WL meet bad man and they cheat each other
Bad man cheat good WL

It is all a cycle like many things in life. No right and wrong involve :D

Yes bro, no rites no wrongs
For my case, like another close WL who knew the 2 of us said, and i quote:
"两个要骗对方, 后来玩出火了!"
How rite she was.....how very right
So your context above, i guess BAD WL meet BAD MAN and they CHEAT EACH OTHER, both dumb fucks fell in love and both got burnt bigtime.........cos she has since left the scene already.....for how long, that i dunno!

HCKing
19-02-2009, 04:46 PM
YMMV = Your mileage may vary.... means that you your opinion might be different from mine....

hehe gd terms. thanks.:D

HCKing
19-02-2009, 04:48 PM
Hmm i remember seeing it somewhere in this forum

Good WL marry good man
Good man cheated by bad WL
Bad WL meet bad man and they cheat each other
Bad man cheat good WL

It is all a cycle like many things in life. No right and wrong involve :D

gt good WL one meh? hw come i never meet b4? maybe i suay. hehehe.:p

mike1304k
19-02-2009, 04:52 PM
I understand how you feel Bro DYBJ. It is only through great loss and also great hurdles that one day we will understand that there is no chivalry in this world of FL WL. The sucess stories are so few and far in between, but the sad stories are so many more.

With this bad economic situation, the WL's and FL's will be more than likely be even less scrupulous about trapping their prey. Be it for marriage or for money. And every likely trick will be used and some that we have never thought of.

It is true that even the most battle scarred cheongster may be wiser, but when the conditions are just right, when the lady touches you in just the right way, you may again become jelly. And it takes great will and great mental strength to avoid the trap. That is why the best way is to cheong without wanting KC. Just bonk and forget.

Some guys have problems and stress, be it home or work and go out to look for ways to de-stress, and sometimes they open themselves to situations where the WL or FL treats them better, gives them a better feeling and so on. But then just take it as a transaction, get your satisfaction and get out of there.

Hey... lets not talk about WL and FL, I know of a few SYT who are out of a job and are really trying their best to find someone to "look after" them. I have one who is much younger than me, normal local chick, who tells me how poor thing she is, how her boyfren is dumping her and how she is so poor thing. I just said "poor thing, well just try to keep your chin up hor". If I want to ons, most probably can. If I want to keep a FB, just offer price, most probably also can... but to think of it.. Like I said... I don want trouble, so should not go looking for it.

HCKing
19-02-2009, 05:07 PM
Yes bro, no rites no wrongs
For my case, like another close WL who knew the 2 of us said, and i quote:
"两个要骗对方, 后来玩出火了!"
How rite she was.....how very right
So your context above, i guess BAD WL meet BAD MAN and they CHEAT EACH OTHER, both dumb fucks fell in love and both got burnt bigtime.........cos she has since left the scene already.....for how long, that i dunno!

no right no wrong, its all abt choices. u choose the way u want to play yr game. if one wants to play, be prepared to face the outcome. no matter wat outcome it is, never push the entire responsibility to the other party. win is win, lose is lose. if win, gd 4 u. if lose, pick yrself up and learn frm it.

DO_YOU_BJ
19-02-2009, 08:32 PM
Now that i've mentioned about stuff from a guy's perspective, here's something i witnessed 1st hand from a WLs perspective.
All these happened from Oct08 till late Jan09

Knew this singer from a joint and we were very very close.
Young, attractive and most if not all men have emntioned about her, even many who posted in this forum on this particular thread have mentioned that she's TOK KONG in this forum hehehehe
But this post if not about me and her, more like her.

Anyways, as we finially ended out stint together, we became so close i took her in as a little sister.
She's from Chong Qing by the way.
Being an advisor to her to all men related stuff, she, being young, just after 20 and is already a mother of one over in the motherland plus a divorcee to a man who's a gambler who gambled everything away.
Anyways, thru her charm, she had 3 men during her stint here on our island.

One a rich non sillyporean who gives her SGD10k per month, another a sillyporean who ask her to give him all her receipts at the end of everymonth and will reimburse her and one last one, a young bloke who is what we would call a normal wage earner.

The 2 men, who had the $$$ to throw, treated her pretty well, but of course, she has to submit to watever they wanted, more money sake.
The young one, though he didnt have the $$$$ to throw, was someone she pinned her hopes on.....to get PRship!

The young bloke, fell in love wif her bigtime, and would call and sms her almost throughout the day. Well, to a WL, that's a good sign, a sign of obedience and submission...based on simple fact, he's KCed bigtime.
As time passed, he would fetch her from work everyday, she'd move in with him and also, he would intro her to her folks and thru her charisma, also won the heart of his parents.
Next he proposed to her for marraige, mind you, he only knew her for 3 months!!!!!!!
Of course, she happily agreed. But then thing grew a little too tight for her, she had still 2 money trees to please. She played her cards well. Everytime she was needed by either one of the 2 men, she would find a reason to have a big quarrel wif that young bloke so that she could disappear for a couple of days to be with those other rich men on the pretext that she was cooling down.
I felt sad initially for that poor dude & warned her of karma but she showed me his text sms and also recorded their phone calls for me to hear later. Man, after hearing and seeing those messages, i felt disgusted wif this guy.
He begged, willing to surrender everything to her, ask his parents to put her in their will etc....wat a looser.........but in the end, the day before she left, he knew time grew short and started to send more LOW DOWN sms's to her.......wat a real looser...........
Of course, she has left and we're still in close contact, though no relationship involved, i'm proud of this gal, what she did etc and yeah, she'll be back again...and soon.
As for this young bloke, poor thing some may say, but to me, he bloody deserved it!

This is not my 1st encounter of such men, there're many, and yes, we who are experienced will know of the tricks and not to believe what we see or hear, but to believe what we cant see n hear......but then, life is fair, some were born to ride, some were born to be rode on.

There's another more recent one, about a singer i posted from a joint. A guy actually came forward with a new nick and immediately came to her defense. I deliberately showed his posts to many singers whom i knew surfed SBF and all were laughing at the guy, saying that confirm he's her man and cannot heck wat was posted but hey, too bad, she's still a WL. The things one will do for a WL is amazing..........but i remember one golden rule, where you can be an advisor to a WL, you never represent them for watever blunder they commit, else, they just run and you have to take the shit for it.

Another is a singer who fell in love with a low life. A normal wage earner but she has so much 希望 on him she decided to divorce her husband in China and disown her 3yr old kid just to marry this guy. As I personally know him, this is the biggest mistake of her life and boy will she pay dearly but then again, now she becomes a victim of this KC.

How amazing, but this is how vicious the cycle is, there are its fair share or horrid stories we hear everyday, just make more friends with WL, no emotions but just friends and you'll start you hear things you never get to read here.

cablesnwires
19-02-2009, 09:22 PM
Bro DYBJ, thank you for sharing your experiences, especially the one which you went through hell and back.

* bows and salute.

I believe many would have gained from these 3 posts. :)

DO_YOU_BJ
19-02-2009, 09:24 PM
Bro DYBJ, thank you for sharing your experiences, especially the one which you went through hell and back.

* bows and salute.

I believe many would have gained from these 3 posts. :)

Actually all have been posted long ago...the exact story from start till end.
But thanks anyways dude

xyz1001
19-02-2009, 09:34 PM
Man, after hearing and seeing those messages, i felt disgusted wif this guy.
He begged, willing to surrender everything to her, ask his parents to put her in their will etc....wat a looser.........but in the end, the day before she left, he knew time grew short and started to send more LOW DOWN sms's to her.......wat a real looser...........

As for this young bloke, poor thing some may say, but to me, he bloody deserved it!



Wah... Like that also can... u are rite man, he bloody deserved it.

colins
19-02-2009, 09:35 PM
Actually all have been posted long ago...the exact story from start till end.
But thanks anyways dude

Wow, its so real that I am wondering whether the stories had just happened in front of my eyes....

HCKing
19-02-2009, 09:50 PM
Wah... Like that also can... u are rite man, he bloody deserved it.

ya lor, machiam no woman will die like tat. hai.:o

HCKing
19-02-2009, 10:11 PM
its little wonder y PRC WL like to say sg guys $$ easy to 'earn'

hopefully more chiongsters, esp the submissive type bro DYBJ has highlighted in his post will visit this section of the forum to gain more useful knwledge b4 they enter the game.

mike1304k
19-02-2009, 10:50 PM
One thing is never be too cocky lah. There are bros who think they can handle the situation, they are masters because they conned some girls or what, but each new girl has a new set of "skills" and some are so good that you will be hooked before you even know that you are dangling. Always just remember, wanna play? Must be prepared to play. It is not that no girl will die, but if the girl touches you the right way and presses the right buttons, even the most heartless master will fall on his own sword. I am sure that the senior bros will agree to this. That is why always use your larger head than the smaller one. And never let your ego get the better of you.

Absolute
20-02-2009, 03:13 AM
Talking about KC trap, I recalled a surprise email I received from a Hunan PRC (about 21) few days ago. We sort of broke up one year ago.

Then suddenly, she wrote me an email telling me that she has closed down her laundry shop recently because times are bad and will be going to another province to look for employment. She even said that when she is settled down in her new workplace, she hopes that she can see me again.

The first thought that came to my mind was that she is using me as a clutching straw in case she needs help or that she hopes to marry a Singaporean and get citizenship or PR. After all, when we broke up a year ago because I did not show concern to her at all, she said that that would be the last time she would cry for me. After that, we never communicated anymore.

See? Some PRCs have great resilience and for the sake of survival, they can forget about saving their face.

Some of these PRCs have given their purest loves (untainted with money, bread and butter issues) to their PRC boyfriends but when they meet Singapore men, you can be rest assured that they don't love you as much as their first boyfriend in PRC. Of course they will never admit. Some may even compare you with their first boyfriends and claimed that you are loving, mature and know how to make a woman feels like a woman.

So be cool-headed when you cheong.

mike1304k
20-02-2009, 12:07 PM
Talking about KC trap, I recalled a surprise email I received from a Hunan PRC (about 21) few days ago. We sort of broke up one year ago.

Then suddenly, she wrote me an email telling me that she has closed down her laundry shop recently because times are bad and will be going to another province to look for employment. She even said that when she is settled down in her new workplace, she hopes that she can see me again.

The first thought that came to my mind was that she is using me as a clutching straw in case she needs help or that she hopes to marry a Singaporean and get citizenship or PR. After all, when we broke up a year ago because I did not show concern to her at all, she said that that would be the last time she would cry for me. After that, we never communicated anymore.

See? Some PRCs have great resilience and for the sake of survival, they can forget about saving their face.

Some of these PRCs have given their purest loves (untainted with money, bread and butter issues) to their PRC boyfriends but when they meet Singapore men, you can be rest assured that they don't love you as much as their first boyfriend in PRC. Of course they will never admit. Some may even compare you with their first boyfriends and claimed that you are loving, mature and know how to make a woman feels like a woman.

So be cool-headed when you cheong.

See??? They are really desperate to get out. But please hor brothers, the news says that AIDS is really a big killer in China now. Not saying anything or inferring anything, but if they can put chemicals into milk to make more money, what happens if a PRC has AIDS? Will she declare it and stay at home and die or try to make as much money as possible before she dies? So please like I said, be extra careful during this time.

HCKing
20-02-2009, 04:58 PM
Some of these PRCs have given their purest loves (untainted with money, bread and butter issues) to their PRC boyfriends but when they meet Singapore men, you can be rest assured that they don't love you as much as their first boyfriend in PRC. Of course they will never admit. Some may even compare you with their first boyfriends and claimed that you are loving, mature and know how to make a woman feels like a woman.


when a girl can openly tell u u r gd, better than any of her previous ex, very yan dao, very the man, very this and that without feeling a wee bit of paiseh u can be sure its all por lumpah talk as girl being girl will never tell the guy she likes his gd points straight to his face. she will express them by her actions.:D

tanterry
20-02-2009, 10:43 PM
You can call me a bastard for wat i did to this 1 WL, but there're tons more, but remember, you heard it from my side, the guys side, you've yet to hear from their side!

Moral of the story... A devil is always a devil. So when a devil tried to act like angel, he will end up with lots of internal struggle and can even get burnt bigtime :D

daggerboy
21-02-2009, 10:27 AM
Hi TS,

Thanks for sharing. I think your warning is quite apt.

norigo77
21-02-2009, 05:48 PM
Talking about KC trap, I recalled a surprise email I received from a Hunan PRC (about 21) few days ago. We sort of broke up one year ago.
...
So be cool-headed when you cheong.

It is the same everywhere. Times may have changed but human nature never change! My thai tiraks also deployed the same tactics like your PRC girl.

Just cover the face and bomb the base!! Bwahahaha

liuyidao2009
21-02-2009, 07:17 PM
my 76 year-old uncle was asked to bring a just arrived 35 year-old prc to people's park complex to remit money to China after having sex at geylang. next she says she does not have a watch, so cannot tell the time of the day. my uncle says: ok, we go to ppc again to get that watch, more variety, cheaper. slowly & surely, suck him dry!

jaynick
22-02-2009, 09:29 AM
my 76 year-old uncle was asked to bring a just arrived 35 year-old prc to people's park complex to remit money to China after having sex at geylang. next she says she does not have a watch, so cannot tell the time of the day. my uncle says: ok, we go to ppc again to get that watch, more variety, cheaper. slowly & surely, suck him dry!

Bro, must tell your uncle to beware la. Wait no $ for retirement

meder
22-02-2009, 02:22 PM
Ya... all around companies are not doing well.

That's why I relocated back to SG


me too.. just back for a couple of weeks

got any gal to intro here?

mike1304k
22-02-2009, 02:25 PM
That is the ad thing lor. Just like my uncle also, I damn worried. The ladies will make you feel like a knight in shining armour and then KC trap you from there lor. That is why if you wanna go f*ck a FL or WL, just pay nd leave. She ask you to accompany her to do this do that oso better not say yes... Jus allowing yourself to kenna only.

Caisheng
22-02-2009, 02:33 PM
rather interesting thread.:p

sexfrenzy
22-02-2009, 02:41 PM
my 76 year-old uncle was asked to bring a just arrived 35 year-old prc to people's park complex to remit money to China after having sex at geylang. next she says she does not have a watch, so cannot tell the time of the day. my uncle says: ok, we go to ppc again to get that watch, more variety, cheaper. slowly & surely, suck him dry!

bro ur uncle still got hope lah. my uncle got the PRC pregnant. now rent a 3 room flat for her. baby juz delivered in Dec. now all his money go to the woman. wife and 2 kids juz found out and hell at home everyday.

CNY also dun dare go their house :(

DO_YOU_BJ
23-02-2009, 11:58 AM
bro ur uncle still got hope lah. my uncle got the PRC pregnant. now rent a 3 room flat for her. baby juz delivered in Dec. now all his money go to the woman. wife and 2 kids juz found out and hell at home everyday.

CNY also dun dare go their house :(

This is a well documented case of a non player.
A man who is a player will always know to clean his mouth after every meal and not bring them hmoe.
Things like sneaking out in the middle of the night to meet a WL etc and letting the FL/WL come home and create havoc in his house, this kind of man, know how to go hunting but dunno how to finish the hunt.....so he pays the price.
Guess, in all, it's his tuition fee he's paying!

sexfrenzy
23-02-2009, 12:10 PM
well.. that's a lot for tution fees. The gal is quite a good actor.. was sweet and accomondating in front of him but gave us all a black face when my uncle's back was turned. She was working as a beer promotor prior, now juz shake leg, collect allowances and bitched on a PR status everyday.

Any bro here can offer a solution to bring my uncles back to his senses will be very much appreciated.

slider_72
23-02-2009, 12:24 PM
well.. that's a lot for tution fees. The gal is quite a good actor.. was sweet and accomondating in front of him but gave us all a black face when my uncle's back was turned. She was working as a beer promotor prior, now juz shake leg, collect allowances and bitched on a PR status everyday.

Any bro here can offer a solution to bring my uncles back to his senses will be very much appreciated.

Get someone to KC her, give her hopes of getting more money compared with what your uncle can give her, and after getting her to dump your uncle, tell her to fuck off.

DO_YOU_BJ
23-02-2009, 04:31 PM
well.. that's a lot for tution fees. The gal is quite a good actor.. was sweet and accomondating in front of him but gave us all a black face when my uncle's back was turned. She was working as a beer promotor prior, now juz shake leg, collect allowances and bitched on a PR status everyday.

Any bro here can offer a solution to bring my uncles back to his senses will be very much appreciated.

Can...intro to me...if she's worth it, not only will i get her off your uncles hand for sure, i'll make sure she will never even think of PRship again...but then hor, your uncle might HARA KIRI! Then how bolls????

big_dick
25-02-2009, 09:45 AM
Hi bros,

Recently got to know another WL which I began to visit quite frequently due to the great GFE she gives. Of course I know it's all a game (from my previous WL encounter and the good advice I had recieved from this forum).

Anyway, there was this time when I was just back from out-station and feeling horny. I SMS her saying I would be seeing her the following day. The reason is that I wanted her to be prepared and give some good service.

She SMS back saying OK but why the sudden rush since just back? (I told her I just came back).

I replied I was tired and needed some good "fun".

She SMS back saying since tired, get a good rest first then come back when fully recharged as she would prefer me to be more "energetic". Also, health is important and should get adequate rest.

I SMS her back, OK never mind, and went on to HC for another gal.

I have no doubts that this is another one of their tricks but I can't help being curious how this one works. My reaction is this is the "reverse polarity" thingy that one of the bros mentioned, where the gal feigns concern or "pushes" away her clients just to enforce the girlfriend feeling and so strengthen the yearning feel. But it's kinda silly cos this may backfire on the gal and she actually loses income. My other reaction is that this gal is probably very experienced for her age (she says only 22) and patient enough to "play" on a really really long term basis (i.e forgo the short-term income for the long-term goal which I have no idea at this point what it is as yet). If so, she must be an old bird and I better be extra super careful or drop her totally if cannot handle!!!!

Just curious about how you bros think? Since the theme is on new wave of KC trap, I thought it will be interesting to see if this one is considered "new" or if someone has encountered this before.....

Thanks all for reading.

sexfrenzy
25-02-2009, 10:07 AM
Can...intro to me...if she's worth it, not only will i get her off your uncles hand for sure, i'll make sure she will never even think of PRship again...but then hor, your uncle might HARA KIRI! Then how bolls????

bro dun think she is worth your while though although she probably looks damn attractive to a 50 year old man!!

later u say lousy quality zap my points :D

EtherC
25-02-2009, 10:13 AM
These girls have a whole arsenal of tricks up their sleeves. Do not be deceived by their "tender" age(which often is a lie as well). Even the new comers tend to have their more experienced compatriots guiding them. So beware. As for this "concern", its a commonly used ploy. For example after a session she'll act so concerned that you're tired out, should get back home to rest. The true intent is that she probably has another customer in waiting. Same situation when they are moaning "Oh Oh come baby I want you to cum. Ah faster faster", they are encouraging you to cum faster so she can turnover faster for the day and get a rest. In your case if she really likes you, she'll rush down to meet you(Could be faked again if she thinks you're a high value mark worthy of the effort). The most probable case is that she is not losing income, she's likely to be snaring another bigger sucker at that moment and managing you as a potential mark(victim). By feigning concern she achieves 2 goals. Like I mentioned in my earlier posts these girls can tell whether you're a true player or not. In your case bro big_dick be happy that you're a lower priority mark. It means you're not that easy to hook. SO continue to be careful in your escapades. Keep sexed but keep safe. Well done for the moment. It seems you have a clear head on those shoulders.

Gaofar
14-03-2009, 01:33 PM
That I'll like to see in real-live action... Prove to me and I'll upped you instead! :rolleyes:

BKnight
14-03-2009, 02:48 PM
[QUOTE]
Many silly men fall into the KC trap of China prostitutes
But many property consultants know that PRC fall into the KC trap themselves with us
The power & beauty of property consultants
1 KTV girl keep begging me to screw hee & give me FOC somemore. I told her to f..k off!

Keep up your self-illusion...:D

Panamera
14-03-2009, 03:53 PM
The 2 men, who had the $$$ to throw, treated her pretty well, but of course, she has to submit to watever they wanted, more money sake.
The young one, though he didnt have the $$$$ to throw, was someone she pinned her hopes on.....to get PRship!


Bro, these 2 types of men (Thrower and Ultimate fallguy) is part of the LANDSCAPE in WL world...Same story, Different person and Different Joint..A karmic cycle in WL world.

Thanks for the story and life experience...

mike1304k
16-03-2009, 01:19 PM
Actually, the tricks are not new, it is just how they re-package them, or re-introduce them... Just like in another thread, another brother asked if it is a sign of love if the FL wants to do it raw with them.

The things is that most of these girls are here for a reason. Either in the short term to make as much money from as many Roberts as possible or to try and land themselves a fish who will give them the ultimate. Imagine... PR status here means they can stay and work... Once they get it, they can go back to their ways... Or milk the guy and do it on the side... whichever way... it is still a win win situation for them.