Is there true love?

[xavierchang]

I'm here to share about my situation, and perhaps some advice would do fantastic for me right now.

It all started a few weeks back when i went up with a street walker along L8. Everything in the the room was more or less the same. but we did french and she let me do everything i wanted. I was quite surprised. Later she revealed to me that I was the first customer ever. I was thinking back then, the truth in that statement was less than 1%. It was already 2 am. so i sent her back on a cab, only to find out that she lives a stone's throw away from me. She came as a student, on a 3 year pass. and about my age as well. We exhanged numbers and it's how it began.

The next day, crazy thing first, i asked her out. It was just like a normal date, no hanky panky whatsoever, as she told me more about her life and that she came only 10 days and worked in KTV initially. I really didnt care too much about the relationship, cos i knew that it was so impossible, plus the dangers of hanging out with a PRC. But things changed. I seem to have fallen for her. It started out with just the fantasy of going out with a pretty young girl, but i could no longer suppress my emotions.

I know it sounds crazy but she really convinced me that she likes me. For 20 plus times i've been seeing her, she never demanded a cent from me. we're like a normal teenage couple. She didnt go to work, i know cos she stays over in my house. she calls me daily to tell me about her school life and stuff. I dont know how true this may sound to you guys but indeed that's what happened to me. Bros out there may have a terrible impression about PRC girls, and the $-sign face. But i really felt like being with a normal girlfriend. I'm a student as well, i dont see any other intention of her being with me. She sure has enough contacts if she needed a guy for money. (she worked in ktv).

Every part of me tells me to carry on the relationship.. I've been caught in similar situation with a WL before, certainly, it feels different this time

[aczeta76]

She is here for 3 years...

*hint*.. need to have long term support so bro, look for the signals lah.

Ask yourself, if she need money.. HOW?

U going to allow her to FL or u going to give her $$ even if she dun ask for it?

If the former, ask yourself if you can take it.

Good luck! and welcome to the PRC club. I hope u dun join us in the EX-FL groups though..

[wodemama]

I know it sounds crazy but she really convinced me that she likes me. For 20 plus times i've been seeing her, she never demanded a cent from me. we're like a normal teenage couple. She didnt go to work, i know cos she stays over in my house. she calls me daily to tell me about her school life and stuff. I dont know how true this may sound to you guys but indeed that's what happened to me. Bros out there may have a terrible impression about PRC girls, and the $-sign face. But i really felt like being with a normal girlfriend. I'm a student as well, i dont see any other intention of her being with me. She sure has enough contacts if she needed a guy for money. (she worked in ktv).

Every part of me tells me to carry on the relationship.. I've been caught in similar situation with a WL before, certainly, it feels different this time

Bro, if she has plans to suck you dry then its only normal for her to "act" like she really cares for you and not wanting you to give her money. INstead the money could be in the form of you buying her gifts and dinner and stuffs, little by little the money that you spend will be alot in time to come. my advice is that you should take a step back and look at the big picture(how she behaves and stuff) before rushing into any decision which could severely affect your life in the future, and the fact that you are still a student.

One more thing, one wouldnt mind having more money so even if she does has
her contacts for money, but if you pay for her daily expenses then it turns out that she doesnt have to fork a single cent out for her survivial here in sg. Remember most of the WL are very very good actress who can easily get an oscar award if they were nominated for it.

Lastly, if you were to get into a relationship with her. Due to the nature of her work, she will sleep with MANY MANY OTHER men and can you stand having your GF bonked by men of all races with you having full knowledge of the situation? Go to gl LOR 8 where she stands, observe her from afar and see the number of people entering the hotel with her.

P/S i'm also a teenager and but i feel if really want to have a stable GF, just find one in your school. Pretty and DECENT girls are everywhere, take your pick,no need to rush as we are still young. :D

[xavierchang]

thanks bro
actually it's not about whether i want to give her money, fact is i can't. How much can a student give? 100 bucks? She says she doesnt want to go fl anymore, and wants to find a new job..

[DO_YOU_BJ]

Since its so new & still fresh, ask yourself what you wanna achieve outta all this 1st. After that, do come back with your decision.

Remember, if you wanna see the truth REVEALED, but ready for tears from her that may melt or break you deeper into a weaker state.
The bro's here have the ultimate mind fucking tests ala 101 for her to have no choice but to reveal the truth to you.
We are never worried or bothered about what she does or say when she's wif you for like what another bro said, they're all 金马将quality and will make Gong Li look like she is still in acting school.
What is the main concern here is what happens when she's not by your side....that's where always the probs or shit happens behind your back.....that grey area, is what you shud be more concerned of.

Go tink about it & do come back wif a FIRM decision and firm means firms, not 50/50 tks and good luck

[aczeta76]

thanks bro
actually it's not about whether i want to give her money, fact is i can't. How much can a student give? 100 bucks? She says she doesnt want to go fl anymore, and wants to find a new job..

Bro.. she is on Student pass.. how to get job??

Maybe she is looking at long term.. maybe u remind her of her 1st love... maybe she is new and not seasoned enuff?

I presume she is still working as a FL? Else how she manage her expenses...

[DO_YOU_BJ]

thanks bro
actually it's not about whether i want to give her money, fact is i can't. How much can a student give? 100 bucks? She says she doesnt want to go fl anymore, and wants to find a new job..

U must remember, to milk a cow doesnt mean that if you only get 2 drops of milk, that cow is not good.
Many cows make a pail of milk!
Also, she says she wanna go find work....let her go & do encourage her to do so & see what she ends up doin.
The result will reveal all to you.
If one is willing just to earn her keep to make ends meet, a waitress is the most likely job any overseas student would do.......but if she ends up at a KTV, then you know the MONEY factor is VERY important to her liao thus revealing the truth to you.
If you want to, you may PM me & i will recommend her to my mummies at all the high end KTVs for her to make her buck that's provided she meets the mark to work there in the 1st place.

[wodemama]

thanks bro
actually it's not about whether i want to give her money, fact is i can't. How much can a student give? 100 bucks? She says she doesnt want to go fl anymore, and wants to find a new job..

bro, may i ask whats your age?

Even if you can, why give the money to her like that? Remember that you know her for barely a while and you already want to give her money, imagine if you knew her for a few years.

Since she wants to be "independent", then the least you could do is to help her get a good paying part time job since she is also studying(which i believe to be not true). If she study during the day,and in the night she works in ktv then go to stand at street at gl.Then where will she get enough rest for school?First few times ok but gradually it will take a toll on her. Rmb why she even came to SINGAPORE in the first place. Most of the china students who really came to study are pretty well-off in their hometown and they have no need to do such a thing here. Pls rmb

[colins]

Bro TS, your relationship probably has not ripen yet for you to see its true form. Whether the true form is based on money, or on feelings, it doesn't matter much to you now. I think many bros has jumped ahead to tell you what its like and how to approach this relationship of yours, but until then, maybe you would not believe how useful they are.

Relationship like this is hard to say, there are many indications that it is based on feelings. Right now the only objective thing to it is, she is WL, she is willing to sell her body and she has the mindset to continue this way of approaching her life. Easy money, value of riches is higher than her own body. For someone of this mindset, you have to shift your perception a bit if you began to talk love and feelings to her, cos you dun know how she thinks about you and your 'love'. Many bros got stuck in this definition until it breaks them apart...ah but that's later. You cant see it now, becos of this reason -

You are both living in dreamland.

Savour it, enjoy it but remember to wake up. Wake up to the reality of ever marrying her or breaking up with her. That's when you come to terms of having a WL gf, someone whom everyone can have a hand at her body after paying up, someone who accept tips for her 'good services' and the same person who if you have not bought her up, someone else who is a lot more well-to-do would have surely swept her off her pretty feet faster than you can.

Ah...but that can't be real right? She is your angel just becos she doesn't want money. And she has given you more than what you've given her. This is in the pretext that she has money. If she dun, you support her? It is only right to support her isn't it? If you can't, she walks the street or she eats your bread?

Your money is from your parents, dude. It is for you to be a good son who is making them proud, studying for a bright future. Think about what you have in mind now. Is it fair to them? Likewise if she walks the street again becos you cannot provide for her, is it fair to stop her? Or is it fair for you to agonise over her plight, no doubt caused by her choice.

Your relationship hasn't ripen yet. It may not be time for actions. But it certainly is the time for questions.

[slider_72]

Sigh. Yet another victim of the PRC KC. Welcome to the club.

To be fair to you and your girl, there is not enough information in your posts about her for any of us to draw any form of conclusion what is her ultimate objective. Who knows whether there might be a genuine love story going on here apart from yourself and her.

You say that you are not loaded and you think that money is not her objective. Apart from money, there can be other objectives as well which is not love. While I do believe in the existence of love at first sight, the probability of BOTH parties falling in love with each other at first sight is quite low. I am not saying that it did not happen in your case but if it did, you are probably one out of a few million.

Find out more about her background first before you jump into a relationship with her. Usually there is more to it than meets the eye.

I am in no position to offer any real or substantive views about your relationship. The best advice I can offer is to read closely the views set out by some of the senior bros here like DYBJ or Colin. Believe me, if you read their views carefully and think it through, you will find that you see things a bit better. I am a beneficiary of their words of wisdom for which I am eternally grateful.

Good luck bro. Hopefully you do not become another statistic.

[aces68]

bro TS, I have a slightly different opinion and advice for you.
Based on your story, you are probably a cheongster also since you purposely went to find WL in Geylang. I also suppose that she's not your first love. You probably had some other gf before. So, why don't you just treat her like any other girlfriend, don't think about the money part.
What I'm trying to say is that if you were dating a local gal, would you think of giving her money? I don't think so, so why should you think of giving your PRC gal any money. Just behave and act as if she's a local gf. Go for movies, have fun dating, have fun fucking and so on.

The day may probably come when she asks you to help her out financially. That will be the signal for you to jump off the bandwagon. Since you mentioned that you have been with other WL before, I am sure you will be able to detect these signals and escape from the KC trap.

What I am curious is how come she could stay over at your place?
Your parents did not comment anything?

[naemlo]

Uncle here to KPO. :D


Later she revealed to me that I was the first customer ever. I was thinking back then, the truth in that statement was less than 1%.


Started with a white lie.


as she told me more about her life and that she came only 10 days and worked in KTV initially.

She came as a student, on a 3 year pass.


Your story a bit confusing, maybe uncle dun understand u. She here for 3 yrs or 10 days?



It started out with just the fantasy of going out with a pretty young girl, but i could no longer suppress my emotions.

I'm a student as well

we're like a normal teenage couple.



I blur again, how old r u and how young is she? I will be in fantasy if I go out with young gers cos I'm 60 plus yrs old.



She didnt go to work, i know cos she stays over in my house. she calls me daily to tell me about her school life and stuff.


Nbzzz I'm getting old. She called u from your house?



Every part of me tells me to carry on the relationship..

Nbzzzz I admit I'm getting old... since u make up your mind, y ask ppl? Just go ahead with it. :D


BTW, maybe uncle blur f, if a ger dun need money, why she sells her body to men??

[porscheclub]

Later she revealed to me that I was the first customer ever.

BIG FAT LIE.

She came as a student, on a 3 year pass. and about my age as well. We exhanged numbers and it's how it began.

I think u mean u mean she's here on a 3yr student pass & been around 10 days?

I know it sounds crazy but she really convinced me that she likes me. For 20 plus times i've been seeing her, she never demanded a cent from me. we're like a normal teenage couple.

They also need love & tender care:p

She didnt go to work, i know cos she stays over in my house.

How did you explain to your parents?

Every part of me tells me to carry on the relationship.. I've been caught in similar situation with a WL before, certainly, it feels different this time

Looks like you're not a very green student. Well, since she's free for the moment, enjoy the peace & love but the moment some grand mother's tales come out of the closet. Don't say we didn't warn you. She's here to study or earn $? If you've met her @ Lor 8 (worst area IMO) she's definitely not a simple student but a FL. She'll need to feed herself & repay her loan etc. Are you going to help her, can you help her? Do you know what she really does @ home? Good luck & enjoy.

[ekemono]

I'm here to share about my situation, and perhaps some advice would do fantastic for me right now.

You can still continue to see her but can you accept that she works in a KTV? I am sure you know inside that place many things can happen. Can you sleep peacefully everynight while she is at work?

[Wooden_Handle]

To the TS,

Whatever you heard from the WLs you must take 50% discount off.
Whatever they give you free now you will pay at least 10 times more in return.

Remember their main intention of staying here... for $$$ - full stop.

[justl00king]

To the TS,

Whatever you heard from the WLs you must take 50% discount off.
Whatever they give you free now you will pay at least 10 times more in return.

Remember their main intention of staying here... for $$$ - full stop.Bro,

you too generous...50% off? :p

Start with 99% off and work your way down. :D

[Wooden_Handle]

Sorry Senior Bro, see must learn from seniors so wont get con...:p

I think I am too generous.

Bro,

you too generous...50% off? :p

Start with 99% off and work your way down. :D

[FromBoy2Man]

I also came across this situation and I feel wasted as she is very pretty and very young. Sometimes, if you really look around, there are many more prettier than her and dun tell me u r gonna give all of them $? U might say she has chemistry with you and u feel like u have know her in your past life? But come on, fantasy and reality are different, Lust and True love also are different. U might think what will happened to her if she leave u and she gonna going into this trade again? But think abt it, the time she decided to come here, she might have already set a target for herself and u might just one of her man for her to get a good life here. Remember their school fee is damn expensive and the living standard in Singapore is quite high now, she needs $. If one is desperate for $ and by going back to her hometown without gaining anyhting here will make her loose face. One might do anything(including RAW?!) just for that hugh sum of school fee in a very short time.

[xavierchang]

I've read through all comments posted by you guys, believe me they are more than useful, though i believe some of them were a little too exaggerated.

Before she worked at L8, she was from a KTV, and she moved to L8 cos she thought there's easier money there. I found out later that there's really a possibility that i was her first customer as it's really her first day at work there. But she also had other customers after me in the next 2 days. But 3 days is as much as it took for her to stop her work completely. I checked her passport(she really came for 10 days and i met her on the tenth day, which means she is already ~40 days here and 3 years to go), her study pass, all her information is true. I was really careful about KC trap, but it yields practically no logic that she targets me for anything for her own benefit. She only lived in my house for a few days, other days she'll call me at night everyday so i know she's not working. She studies in a specialised school and often goes for dinner, library to study hang out, etc with her classmates, and she'll call me along at times. All she tells me now is how she's looking for other jobs.

Maybe she's looking for moral support, love, care, what i think is that i can give all those to her...

[colins]

hey bro xavier, just enjoy ur time now, dun be too affected. Just keep all these comments at the back of your mind. Since you're already at the stage where you have no qualms in giving her moral support, love, care, do carry on. Giving is sometimes also a form of happiness. You have no money to give her also, so one day if something really happens, the most you suffer will be some heartaches and thats all.

But I am not encouraging you bro, pls dun take it that way. To me, if we were to have a future, I can't accept anyone with that past. Maybe KTV girl still can but streetwalker's a little hard to breach. Maybe you can teach me how you do it?

[FL Lover]

To TS,

Since you have decided on yuor decision, then go ahead with no regrets. But tak note. Both of you are still young which means both of u have equal oppt to meet new guys or gers out there or even better ones.

I would be surprised if one day yor ger suddenly came to realise that there are so many guys better than you, better looking or even richer, she will pack her bags, sms u a last goodbye, change hp and mia from yor life.

Hopefully such things will not happen to you. U happen to be one of the guys that came into her boring life when she just come over in sg. Seen too much of such things, so have to be realistic abit. There is no such things as lasting love.

[Heart Break Kid]

Bro,

you too generous...50% off? :p

Start with 99% off and work your way down. :D

You more generous than mi ... I will start with 99.8% :D

[slider_72]

To me, if we were to have a future, I can't accept anyone with that past. Maybe KTV girl still can but streetwalker's a little hard to breach. Maybe you can teach me how you do it?

Well bro, this is one issue that I beg to differ. Everyone has their past. I think so long as she is honest with you about her past, and so long as it remains in the past, it should not matter if the relationship is real. Otherwise it would be too much of a double standard. I mean all of us posting in this forum engaged the services of WLs before. If the fact that she slept with other men for money in the past is going to be an issue, the fact that you slept with other women and paid them should also be an issue, just a different side of the same coin.

End of the day, the real issue to me is trust. If the guy trusts his girl, and if the girl truly gave up the past way of life, what is wrong with that? The difficulty in achieving that is it is difficult for a guy to 100% trust his ex-WL girlfriend. If that is the case, shouldn't the root of the problem be the guy's insecurities rather than the girl's previous occupation?

[DO_YOU_BJ]

The difficulty in achieving that is it is difficult for a guy to 100% trust his ex-WL girlfriend. If that is the case, shouldn't the root of the problem be the guy's insecurities rather than the girl's previous occupation?

Everyone has a past.....
But not everyone can accept your past.
You may, Colins dont, I may & I may not.....it's very individual.
But then again, experience tells me, no matter how much we can accept the past for current reasons, it will somehow still haunt us sooner or later.

Look at this possibility.
You married a WL.....
She has left the scene.....for you that is.
One day, you're out wif your new wifey and a guy calls her.......guess wat your tot is gonna be??????
Think this is more than enuff to debunk the tot of accepting the past bro.

[xyz1001]

Everyone has their past. I think so long as she is honest with you about her past, and so long as it remains in the past, it should not matter if the relationship is real.


Theoretically, i agree with this sentance. But practically, how many can achieve that and live happily ever after?
Everyone has a past, but how dark is your past? Perhaps if your past is darker than hers, then u won't mind her past. Or perhaps u seen the uglier side of human, and u know how to appreciate the beauty u seen?

[aczeta76]

I've read through all comments posted by you guys, believe me they are more than useful, though i believe some of them were a little too exaggerated.

Before she worked at L8, she was from a KTV, and she moved to L8 cos she thought there's easier money there. I found out later that there's really a possibility that i was her first customer as it's really her first day at work there.

You could be the FIRST customer of the day!

Maybe she's looking for moral support, love, care, what i think is that i can give all those to her...

You mentioned she is staying at your place so u not collecting RENT rite? enuff said..

[naemlo]

If that is the case, shouldn't the root of the problem be the guy's insecurities rather than the girl's previous occupation?

As usual, different ppl has different view on all these WL.

Just a question to u, if u r in love with a WL and she is your gf. One fine day, u intro her to me n I didn't realise the WL is your gf and I whisper to u,

"knn, she is wild on the bed. Her bj was deep throat and sibeh song. I bonked her a few times n also intro to some of my bros, have u bonk her?" What is your reaction?? :rolleyes:

Will u openly, look at me n say, "she is my gf." ?

[slider_72]

As usual, different ppl has different view on all these WL.

Just a question to u, if u r in love with a WL and she is your gf. One fine day, u intro her to me n I didn't realise the WL is your gf and I whisper to u,

"knn, she is wild on the bed. Her bj was deep throat and sibeh song. I bonked her a few times n also intro to some of my bros, have u bonk her?" What is your reaction?? :rolleyes:

Will u openly, look at me n say, "she is my gf." ?

Hahaha. Good one. Went through the scenario in my mind a few times after reading your post. I think my reaction would probably be to whisper to you that she is my gf and look at how you remove the foot from your mouth after that.

[naemlo]

I think my reaction would probably be to whisper to you that she is my gf and look at how you remove the foot from your mouth after that.

Huh y there is a foot?

Anyway if u can admit she is your gf openly with no shyness then by all means go ahead with your relationship.

[Heart Break Kid]

Huh y there is a foot?

Anyway if u can admit she is your gf openly with no shyness then by all means go ahead with your relationship.

Maybe in today world ..guys dun feel shame having a whore as gf.
Instead maybe they feel proud that their gf or wife had been bonked by hundred or thousand of men :D

Talk about exclusive ..is just mouth of words only :rolleyes:

[Kyuzo]

Bro TS,
We are all humans and we all have feelings. If you were to leave Singapore and go to China alone and work there, you would probably feel lonely and depressed at times.

I don't think they are out to cheat you 100%, perhaps she really hasa little liking for you (whether the liking orgins are from real chemistry attraction or out of a situational need would be another debat point). But you always got to remember that she is from PRC and she would have to go back to her own country to settle down eventually; unless you are ready to marry her and make her a PR. They are fully aware of this too and perhaps that is why they themselves cannot commit fully to SG men as well. How many friends around you had really married previous WLs and is willing to overlook her past altogether? From reading over the years in SB forum, I do know such happy relationships existed, but they are really the minority.

Sometimes I think we have to take perspectives from the WLs also in order to define whether what they did are considered as "cheating or sucking money from us".
A lot of the patrons they have are married, some even with kids, do you think these married men are going to leave their family for the WL or its going to be the other way round. Singapore's marriage certificates are endorses by the Women's Charter, if the man is to chose the former, he would have to face paying alimony. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to come up with a rational decision.

Some of the big spenders at nightclubs or FL are actually brothers who are in their mid-40s and onwards. Imagine these WL really commit 100% of the emotions to them. What will happen to them 10 years down the road? 20 years down the road? Or 30 years down the road? They are involved in relationships when the WL is only in their 20s now. We all know that women ages tremendously after 35 (unless you are endorsed by some beauty parlour who will ensure that your outlook is well taken care of). If the man is to pass away or dump the WL after a few years, she would only be like in her early to mid-30s, how is she going to survive the remaining years? So what is their solution? Bingo! Their solution is to amass as much tangible things like cash, houses and accessories from the man, in case he dumps her or leaves her. Thats their way of securing their own future.

I could go on and on but I think I had already made my thoughts across. Good luck and take care TS. I wish you happiness.

[naemlo]

Talk about exclusive ..is just mouth of words only :rolleyes:

Just take his words, anyway it is him who going to face others not us. :D

I just stating 1 of the situation, cheongsters will face if his gf is/was a WL

[Hurricane88]

Wow, I am camping here to see how the stories developed...so interesting like soap opera...hope TS continue to keep us updated...

My advice to TS:

There is no right or wrong in any relationship...follow your heart and do whatever you think you are happy to do...built your experience and then see how all these will developed into...learn from the experience since you are so young...this period will be the happiest times in your life so better enjoy...:)

Questions: The gal paid so much money for her 3 year student pass? Who paid for her or how she paid? Who is paying her current daily expenses for food, lodging, etc?

The answers should be able to explain whatever doubts here.

My two cents worth la...since I am retired and no longer cheonging...:)

[Ah Des]

It all started a few weeks back when i went up with a street walker along L8. Everything in the the room was more or less the same. but we did french and she let me do everything i wanted. I was quite surprised. I seem to have fallen for her. It started out with just the fantasy of going out with a pretty young girl, but i could no longer suppress my emotions.



which one? maybe we got the same gal ,the one wear in pink? :D

[slider_72]

Huh y there is a foot?

Anyway if u can admit she is your gf openly with no shyness then by all means go ahead with your relationship.

No offense please bro. I was just trying to imagine myself in a situation where I unknowingly tell my friend that his ex-WL wifey was damn hot in bed, and he turns around and tells me that she is his wife, I think I will feel damned embarassed in front of him, that's all.

Different people react differently in the same situation I guess. Nothing to do with being proud that the wifey is an ex-WL or otherwise. I am just neutral on that aspect. In fact a friend of mine married a Thai FL. Some other friends started to shun him and made nasty comments but for me, my view is that so long as they are happy together, I wish them well. When I saw his wife, I accorded her the same level of respect as I would with the wives of any of my other friends.

[colins]

Different people react differently in the same situation I guess. Nothing to do with being proud that the wifey is an ex-WL or otherwise. I am just neutral on that aspect. In fact a friend of mine married a Thai FL. Some other friends started to shun him and made nasty comments but for me, my view is that so long as they are happy together, I wish them well. When I saw his wife, I accorded her the same level of respect as I would with the wives of any of my other friends.

I would accord all my friend's wife, regardless of their background, with the same level of respect as my sister. In fact, I do give this same level of respect to current working WL. But thats all '3rd party' respect, quite different when the girl is within your '1st party' scope.

Why I can't accept WL as my wife, yes it is very personal. I am not the controlling-type of person but I do have difficulties with trusting people. I do not think that their decision to sell their body affects their ability to love, respect or to be a mother. But I can't reach that realm to agree with them that being a WL is a good choice for any person, much less someone I love more than my life. If I can't understand a girl, there will be very little in common between us. It is that simple. Compatibility is more important than love as love constantly change while history requires a time machine to correct.

I am no moral freak btw, a whore to me is someone who has more than enough choices and yet choose to be a one. I classified 'whore' in terms of behaviour rather than occupation.

[colins]

Theoretically, i agree with this sentance. But practically, how many can achieve that and live happily ever after?
Everyone has a past, but how dark is your past? Perhaps if your past is darker than hers, then u won't mind her past. Or perhaps u seen the uglier side of human, and u know how to appreciate the beauty u seen?

Bro xyz, your sentence is interesting. Can you help me understand it by giving examples? ;)

[Heart Break Kid]

Just take his words, anyway it is him who going to face others not us. :D

I just stating 1 of the situation, cheongsters will face if his gf is/was a WL

True lah ;) just imagine hmm ......

In Singapore..set up a family marrying a good proper legal wife

In China.. set up another family with a WL wife & possibility she bore a baby :D

In this situation ..our faces are safe :D

1 man 2 wives different countries ...GOOD

[redlord]

Hope not too much tears came out from you ,in love with WL not an easy process ,dont regret .goodluck!:cool:

[naemlo]

Hope not too much tears came out from you ,in love with WL not an easy process ,dont regret .goodluck!:cool:

Wow, ah lord has spoken. :D

[xavierchang]

hey guys, just a little update on my situation. She brought some money here, so she could pay for her prelimnary school fees or some sort. We're really doing okay at the moment. Personally i was from china as well, but i was really young back then, so i'm very localised. So i thought since my whole family tree is back in china, I might go back in the end after my education. thanks guys for helping. i'll keep you guys updated

[juzplay]

hey guys, just a little update on my situation. She brought some money here, so she could pay for her prelimnary school fees or some sort. We're really doing okay at the moment. Personally i was from china as well, but i was really young back then, so i'm very localised. So i thought since my whole family tree is back in china, I might go back in the end after my education. thanks guys for helping. i'll keep you guys updated

No need to keep us updated lah.. Good luck to you

The choice on how to go ahead is yours and yours alone, no other people can tell you wat to do..

If you really love her, dun let her sink into the FL world any further (Provided she is really here to study and not for the money)

[Wooden_Handle]

That will be great, Good Luck and wish you happy ending, let us know more in future, as I know not all ladies there are $$$ minded.

So i thought since my whole family tree is back in china, I might go back in the end after my education. thanks guys for helping. i'll keep you guys updated

[warbird]

Is there true love?

Good question. Yes, I believe there is definitely "true love" between a woman n a man at a particular moment in time.

The question is whether this intense, romantic "true love" can last, for both them, 60-70 yrs of living under one roof. Can it withstand the vicissitudes of life? My answer is still yes, but it's very rare.

It's much tougher than u think. Let's say at age 22 u fall for a very pretty 20y.o. gal, marry her, hv a few kids, etc. Life is indeed great!

Time to fast forward...now she is 50, fat, ugly, sick, maybe even crippled n disfigured, bed-ridden, incontinent of urine/feces, etc. Would u still love her as intensely?

Let's also suppose u hv worked very hard n hv been very successful financially n ar now worth hundreds of millions. You're also a very healthy n virile 52 yo male. You see all those very pretty SYTs around u. Are u going to PCC for the rest of ur life or would u keep a few of those gals as ur mistresses? Be honest w/ ur self. Would u consider urself a heartless husband if u take good care of ur spouse, but at the same time, consort w/ other women? Hv u sinned?

Somtimes, it won't take 30 yrs. What if in only a couple of yrs, ur dream gal has a bad accident n her face is burnt beyond recognition? Oh yes, she is also crippled n can't even hv sex for the rest of her life. Yeah, u are only 24. Would u still love her as intensely for the rest of her life? And never, ever consort w/ any other women?

Thx for reading.

[ParaParaSakura]

Is there true love?


The question is whether this intense, romantic "true love" can last, for both them, 60-70 yrs of living under one roof. Can it withstand the vicissitudes of life? My answer is still yes, but it's very rare.


Somtimes, it won't take 30 yrs. What if in only a couple of yrs, ur dream gal has a bad accident n her face is burnt beyond recognition? Oh yes, she is also crippled n can't even hv sex for the rest of her life. Yeah, u are only 24. Would u still love her as intensely for the rest of her life? And never, ever consort w/ any other women?

Thx for reading.

could be yes for me :) ,its all depend how you fight own emotion .its real fight ....... in our own life ,such things happen again and again .but now ..........depend own fight .....

[ParaParaSakura]

Hope not too much tears came out from you ,in love with WL not an easy process ,dont regret .goodluck!:cool:

bro Red you never point at emotion ,it will regret ,but real fate comes......you never knew tooo..... too bad all your fate been rush ....:mad:


brother red got good input but he never have good output ...

[warbird]

could be yes for me :) ,its all depend how you fight own emotion .its real fight ....... in our own life ,such things happen again and again .but now ..........depend own fight .....

Hi bro ParaParaSakura,

You're either a saint or a true romantic. Maybe both. I salute u, bro.:p

[kiko]

True love is "No matter or worse till death do us part, i love u with every bit of my heart and i swear" If every couple really follow this song, love each other, how wonderful it is , there is no seperation and divourced in this world !

[xyz1001]

Bro xyz, your sentence is interesting. Can you help me understand it by giving examples? ;)

Let's just say there are many many other things that human are willingly to sell for money. And the consequence may affect a lot more pple. To me, the WLs are just earning their keep and is pretty 愿者上钩 :)

[colins]

Let's just say there are many many other things that human are willingly to sell for money. And the consequence may affect a lot more pple. To me, the WLs are just earning their keep and is pretty 愿者上钩 :)

eh bro, this is not the explanation for the sentence I asked you to explain leh?

[xyz1001]

eh bro, this is not the explanation for the sentence I asked you to explain leh?

Perhaps if your past is darker than hers, then u won't mind her past. Or perhaps u seen the uglier side of human, and u know how to appreciate the beauty u seen?

Guess i'm really not good in explaining. hehe

Everyone has his own moral gauge based on his perspective and experiences in life, If based on a range scale of 1 to 9, (1 = real good, 9 = real bad), where would u have placed WLs? where is your range scale? For example, I have a scale of 2 to 8, I can accept most of the things pple do, but there are still things i cannot accept ie having sex with own daughter, this is a 9 for me. WLs score 7, within my range.
So everyone has a past, if he think his past is a 6 (stealing sweets from 7-11), of course he won't be able to accept WLs, probably a 8 or 9 in his opinion.

This moral gauge will probably change and expand with experiences and exposure. Lawful gauge leave it to the polices and laywers. :)

[colins]

Perhaps if your past is darker than hers, then u won't mind her past. Or perhaps u seen the uglier side of human, and u know how to appreciate the beauty u seen?

Guess i'm really not good in explaining. hehe

Everyone has his own moral gauge based on his perspective and experiences in life, If based on a range scale of 1 to 9, (1 = real good, 9 = real bad), where would u have placed WLs? where is your range scale? For example, I have a scale of 2 to 8, I can accept most of the things pple do, but there are still things i cannot accept ie having sex with own daughter, this is a 9 for me. WLs score 7, within my range.
So everyone has a past, if he think his past is a 6 (stealing sweets from 7-11), of course he won't be able to accept WLs, probably a 8 or 9 in his opinion.

This moral gauge will probably change and expand with experiences and exposure. Lawful gauge leave it to the polices and laywers. :)

Hmmmm...quite detail, thanks.

Actually I asked this question is becos I have been curious in people's sensitivity over the moral implications in i.e. going for prostitution, relationship or even marrying ex WL. It seems such moral scale are deep rooted and rather implicit in each person. To me, moral shouldnt change (even with exposure), it is one of those things that governs a person's character. But acceptance is different, like what you said, a person can still accept other's action while withholding his own stand.

I have a friend, actually my ex, who asked me how can I accept my cousin's infidelity to his wife, and that it has to mean I myself accept prostitution. I said, I accept him as a person but while I am very close to him, that does not mean that I apply the same scale on myself.

One thing that is exploding within our society is the rapid and wide acceptance of PRC and PRC WL. If we say, is there a moral impact, actually I do not have any answer. But while many guys are going for quick fix in lor. 8 or in massage centres, the issue is whether do we actually have a moral scale or are we conscious of it. I discuss this becos moral has a strong influence over us buying love (and making a trap out of it) or us earning love (from our own families). It seems like there have been very little discussed over moral, maybe morality tends to be taboo in SBF.